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<blockquote data-quote="FrankTrollman" data-source="post: 1187828" data-attributes="member: 14225"><p>At the point where you roll for damage, the weapon is now sticking into your enemy. You are wielding that weapon as per page 113. This has already been posted on this thread, and there can be no argument.</p><p></p><p>Now the rules don't explicitly say that you are <em>ever</em> no longer wielding a weapon - but based on the fact that "use" and "wield" are used interchangeably in the same sentences under thrown weapons, and weapon sizes - and the rules say that swinging a sword (ie.: making an attack) is "using it" (for the purposes of use activated items like magical swords in the DMG) - it is reasonable to assume that you are wielding the weapon until the end of your attack.</p><p></p><p>A = B</p><p>B = C</p><p>.: A =C</p><p></p><p>Using and Wielding a weapon are equivalent.</p><p>Using a Weapon includes attacking with it.</p><p>Therefore Wielding a Weapon includes attacking with it.</p><p>Logical rules of equivalence substitution.</p><p></p><p>So the process of Wielding the weapon ends <em>after</em> you attack with it - as you are wielding it for the entire term that you are attacking with it.</p><p></p><p>So when you throw a dagger at someone, and the dagger impacts your enemy, you add your strength bonus to the damage roll because you are <em>wielding that dagger at that time</em> (page 113, PHB). This is explicit.</p><p></p><p>And if for some reason this can't penetrate for you: <em>I am going to make fun of you</em>. It really can't get much clearer than this.</p><p></p><p>-Frank</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrankTrollman, post: 1187828, member: 14225"] At the point where you roll for damage, the weapon is now sticking into your enemy. You are wielding that weapon as per page 113. This has already been posted on this thread, and there can be no argument. Now the rules don't explicitly say that you are [i]ever[/i] no longer wielding a weapon - but based on the fact that "use" and "wield" are used interchangeably in the same sentences under thrown weapons, and weapon sizes - and the rules say that swinging a sword (ie.: making an attack) is "using it" (for the purposes of use activated items like magical swords in the DMG) - it is reasonable to assume that you are wielding the weapon until the end of your attack. A = B B = C .: A =C Using and Wielding a weapon are equivalent. Using a Weapon includes attacking with it. Therefore Wielding a Weapon includes attacking with it. Logical rules of equivalence substitution. So the process of Wielding the weapon ends [i]after[/i] you attack with it - as you are wielding it for the entire term that you are attacking with it. So when you throw a dagger at someone, and the dagger impacts your enemy, you add your strength bonus to the damage roll because you are [i]wielding that dagger at that time[/i] (page 113, PHB). This is explicit. And if for some reason this can't penetrate for you: [i]I am going to make fun of you[/i]. It really can't get much clearer than this. -Frank [/QUOTE]
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