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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 488824" data-attributes="member: 1465">My opinions on this thread... please note they all suppose IMVHO <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Being the same spell cast twice, normally the effect should not stack.I really think that basically all instantaneous spells DO stack, since actually it's not really a matter af stacking, but instantaneous damage is the same as hitting the same foe with a sword over and over. If you cast VT twice on the same target, you damage him twice.OTOH, the effect on YOU is not instantaneous, and I would say you get the better result of the 2 spells. Actually, I'd say you get temp HP as which is better between the 2nd spell and what's left from the 1st spell (e.g. you cast it once and get 20hp, then lose 10hp - you still have 10 - you cast it again and get 15, so now you have 15 hp).Basically, you can cast it again to "replenish" your temp Hp; and anyway, you can cast it again simply to kill the foe more quickly <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />. If you cast VT against a foes (including multiple times) you get at most his HP+10, you're "stealing" HP from him, so you just can't "steal" more than he has.From multiple foes you can drain as much as they have each, then you figure out how many HP you get, depending on the previous casting. Apart the fact that here "if you use the vampiric touch spell, the temporary hit points you gain from that particular casting of the spell stack" seems to me to mean nothing at all (stack with what? of course with your current hp - pretty obvious), the FAQs seem to confirm my opinion.I disagree that temp Hp from different spells shouldn't stack, since usually unnamed bonuses from different sources DO stack, but if this is a specific rule for temporary Hp (which work differently from a normal bonus, since you "consume" them), it's fine for me. It doesn't explicitly say it's negative energy damage, AND it specicies instead that it works only on living beings. So I'd simply say that the spell fails and have no effects at all on non-living things, such as Undead, Constructs, objects or anything that does not have a Constitution score: MM's Plants are subject, but not generic vegetables... you can't "suck life" from an artichoke because it's "alive" <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />. It must still be a "creature" i.e. has Wis and Cha.You won't get any drawbacks if you cast it on Undead, apart that you waste the spell (and notice that a touch attack is delivered only with an attack ACTION, you can't be hit only because YOU are touching him). Well, that's when you are on the Positive Energy Plane only! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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