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<blockquote data-quote="neogod22" data-source="post: 7398888" data-attributes="member: 6857879"><p>I avoided pact of the chain for one reason. It sucks. Sure you can get an imp or quasit familiar that can transform into a raven, bit you can get the same with the normal find familiar spell later in your adventure, whether you run across one in your gaming, or you cast a spell to summon one. The improved familiars may seem strong in tier 1, when you don't really fight creatures immune to poison, or are very strong in general, they fall off real quick, and then are only useful as normal familiars and spying. Also, you only want a raven. </p><p></p><p>I suggested Raven Queen Pact, because you'll get a special raven familiar at level one, that can grant you abilities beyond a familiar. Look it up in UA. Also, you still would be able to do pact of the blade, since the raven isn't a pact defining thing. </p><p></p><p>I suggested pact of the tome, because you aren't playing in AL. While like pact of the chain, if you take the book of shadows invocation and find familiar as a ritual spell, you can have the raven familiar. But you also get 3 extra cantrips, which good include green flame blade and booming blade which should make up for your lack of an extra attack. </p><p></p><p>If you plan on multiclassing into wizard regardless, then just go 5 levels as a warlock first. It's less of a power drop to use lvls 6 and 7 for wizard than 4 and 5.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="neogod22, post: 7398888, member: 6857879"] I avoided pact of the chain for one reason. It sucks. Sure you can get an imp or quasit familiar that can transform into a raven, bit you can get the same with the normal find familiar spell later in your adventure, whether you run across one in your gaming, or you cast a spell to summon one. The improved familiars may seem strong in tier 1, when you don't really fight creatures immune to poison, or are very strong in general, they fall off real quick, and then are only useful as normal familiars and spying. Also, you only want a raven. I suggested Raven Queen Pact, because you'll get a special raven familiar at level one, that can grant you abilities beyond a familiar. Look it up in UA. Also, you still would be able to do pact of the blade, since the raven isn't a pact defining thing. I suggested pact of the tome, because you aren't playing in AL. While like pact of the chain, if you take the book of shadows invocation and find familiar as a ritual spell, you can have the raven familiar. But you also get 3 extra cantrips, which good include green flame blade and booming blade which should make up for your lack of an extra attack. If you plan on multiclassing into wizard regardless, then just go 5 levels as a warlock first. It's less of a power drop to use lvls 6 and 7 for wizard than 4 and 5. [/QUOTE]
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