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<blockquote data-quote="Tarrasque Wrangler" data-source="post: 1531227" data-attributes="member: 7473">Haven't seen it.&nbsp; Not planning on spending hard-earned coin at the cineplex to see it either.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;What's this &quot;we&quot; garbage?&nbsp; Are you royalty?&nbsp;&nbsp;I, for one, don't understand why these things can suck and it's still an OK film.&nbsp; The special effects guys aren't writing the dialogue (or ARE they?), a writer is.&nbsp; So, either they take the time and money to write a good script because they care about making something of quality, or they don't because they know you'll give them a free pass.&nbsp;&nbsp;WHY do the actors have to over-act?&nbsp; Watch Jackman in X-Men and X-2, similarly FX-heavy films.&nbsp; He's actually pretty good in those.&nbsp; We get a sense of Logan as a man as well as a fighting machine.&nbsp; What's the difference?&nbsp; Bryan Singer is a good director, Stephen Sommers is adequate.&nbsp;&nbsp;But who cares, it's just an eye candy movie right?&nbsp; Except they didn't even bother to put good eye candy in the previews.&nbsp; The Wolfman looks BAD.&nbsp; The vampire brides look BAD.&nbsp; The transforming Dracula CGI looks BAD.&nbsp; I'm not asking for photorealism here, but these things look more like video game sprites than monsters.&nbsp;&nbsp;And why can't we have a &quot;huge character-driven story-arc, with lots of double-meanings and complexity&quot; AND have special effects and action?&nbsp; Is there some golden Hollywood rule that says if you have more than one action sequence in your film then you are not allowed to have believable characters, emotional resonance, or story depth?&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;A-list talent and great special effects cost money, no doubt.&nbsp; But it doesn't really cost that much more to have a good script than it does to have a bad script, and that's the knock I keep hearing on this movie.&nbsp; Thus, no Tarrasque Wrangler dollars shall it see.&nbsp; I'm just getting fed up with this whole mentality that we should excuse lazy filmmaking because it's genre or something.&nbsp; An action/scifi/fantasy/horror/whatever film that works as art CAN BE MADE.&nbsp; Ask Peter Jackson.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tarrasque Wrangler, post: 1531227, member: 7473"] Haven't seen it. Not planning on spending hard-earned coin at the cineplex to see it either. What's this "we" garbage? Are you royalty? I, for one, don't understand why these things can suck and it's still an OK film. The special effects guys aren't writing the dialogue (or ARE they?), a writer is. So, either they take the time and money to write a good script because they care about making something of quality, or they don't because they know you'll give them a free pass. WHY do the actors have to over-act? Watch Jackman in X-Men and X-2, similarly FX-heavy films. He's actually pretty good in those. We get a sense of Logan as a man as well as a fighting machine. What's the difference? Bryan Singer is a good director, Stephen Sommers is adequate. But who cares, it's just an eye candy movie right? Except they didn't even bother to put good eye candy [i]in the previews[/i]. The Wolfman looks BAD. The vampire brides look BAD. The transforming Dracula CGI looks BAD. I'm not asking for photorealism here, but these things look more like video game sprites than monsters. And why can't we have a "huge character-driven story-arc, with lots of double-meanings and complexity" AND have special effects and action? Is there some golden Hollywood rule that says if you have more than one action sequence in your film then you are not allowed to have believable characters, emotional resonance, or story depth? A-list talent and great special effects cost money, no doubt. But it doesn't really cost that much more to have a good script than it does to have a bad script, and that's the knock I keep hearing on this movie. Thus, no Tarrasque Wrangler dollars shall it see. I'm just getting fed up with this whole mentality that we should excuse lazy filmmaking because it's genre or something. An action/scifi/fantasy/horror/whatever film that works as art CAN BE MADE. Ask Peter Jackson. [/QUOTE]

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