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Van Richten's Guide to Ravenloft - A Grognard Finally Reads It (Review)
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<blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 8874801"><p>Again, not weighing on the book, as I haven't read it, but that map scale actually sounds pretty close to the original black box scale (which was 1 inch equalled ten miles). Ravenlof was originally quite small compared to other settings and also designed to have much lower population levels than other settings. Har'Akir I think is about that size give or take in most of 2E Ravenloft (I am just eyeballing it looking at the map so possible I am not 100% spot on here).  It is a little hard to be precise looking at the PDF (I have the box on my shelf but don't feel like taking it down). But I would say the Sleeping Beast in the Black Box looks to be roughly 25 miles in length (but it is unevenly shaped so that length could be less depending on where you measure from). </p><p></p><p>Scale in Ravenloft was always a major point of contention and debate for people. The Black Box had a pretty small scale, which I thought worked because it made it less epic fantasy and much more intimate and provincial. I believe the Domain of Dread Book also used a 10 mile scale but the map distances may not have been the same as the black box. Pretty sure the d20 version established an idea that distances were malleable and subjective (I thought this was interesting and kind of in keeping with the concept of Ravenloft but made everything too 'nightmare lands' (the original nightmare lands from the black box). </p><p></p><p>Again not weighing in on the book itself, but this honestly sounds like more of a return to the original black box's intention in terms of scale (which I felt worked beautifully in practice). That was always a source of debate though as some people found it unrealistic (personally I felt it worked fine for a demiplane purgatory).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guest 85555, post: 8874801"] Again, not weighing on the book, as I haven't read it, but that map scale actually sounds pretty close to the original black box scale (which was 1 inch equalled ten miles). Ravenlof was originally quite small compared to other settings and also designed to have much lower population levels than other settings. Har'Akir I think is about that size give or take in most of 2E Ravenloft (I am just eyeballing it looking at the map so possible I am not 100% spot on here). It is a little hard to be precise looking at the PDF (I have the box on my shelf but don't feel like taking it down). But I would say the Sleeping Beast in the Black Box looks to be roughly 25 miles in length (but it is unevenly shaped so that length could be less depending on where you measure from). Scale in Ravenloft was always a major point of contention and debate for people. The Black Box had a pretty small scale, which I thought worked because it made it less epic fantasy and much more intimate and provincial. I believe the Domain of Dread Book also used a 10 mile scale but the map distances may not have been the same as the black box. Pretty sure the d20 version established an idea that distances were malleable and subjective (I thought this was interesting and kind of in keeping with the concept of Ravenloft but made everything too 'nightmare lands' (the original nightmare lands from the black box). Again not weighing in on the book itself, but this honestly sounds like more of a return to the original black box's intention in terms of scale (which I felt worked beautifully in practice). That was always a source of debate though as some people found it unrealistic (personally I felt it worked fine for a demiplane purgatory). [/QUOTE]
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