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Van Richten's Guide to Ravenloft Review Round-Up – What the Critics Say
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<blockquote data-quote="Levistus's_Leviathan" data-source="post: 8283781" data-attributes="member: 7023887"><p>Does a confrontation with a Darklord require trying to fight/kill them? Remember, a major part of Ravenloft is that the Dark Powers have control over who lives and who dies when it comes to the Darklords of Ravenloft. A confrontation can be entirely social interaction, and turning to combat is discouraged not because the designers of the book were lazy or some nonsense like that, but because they wanted to give the DM guidance on how to deal with it and personalize it to their own campaign instead of saying "here are the official stats, players must be X-level high to fight X-Darklord". The book at least gives guidance for stats of the darklords, which, IMO, takes more work than just creating a new official stat block.</p><p></p><p>Changes to something don't mean that the previous thing was bad, and they don't mean that you have to like the changes or even use them. Maybe they were trying to turn some of the "diamonds in the rough" into actual diamonds? In order to change a "diamond in the rough" into an actual diamond, one has to change certain parts of that "diamond in the rough", ne?</p><p></p><p>I have absolutely no idea what this is even saying or how it is relevant.</p><p></p><p><em>Checks stats on how many people are playing D&D ever since 5e started</em></p><p>Oh, right. Now is the "Golden Age of D&D". Not anytime in the past.</p><p></p><p>Yes you will. However, complaining about something doesn't mean that it's "unnecessary or blatantly terrible". By no means am I saying that 5e is perfect, but the vast majority of the changes were for the better. There's a reason 5e is the most popular edition in D&D history. It's mostly due to the simplification of needlessly complex rules, and being more user-friendly than previous editions.</p><p></p><p><em>Raises hand</em></p><p>I have been playing D&D for just over 4 and a half years now. I guess that makes me count as a "newb" in comparison to most of the active posters here, but I'm definitely not "casual to the game" and don't know anyone that I have introduced to D&D that enjoy it that are (which are 6 of my cousins, 6 of my friends ) "casuals to the game". Everyone that I have introduced to the game has either been "eh, it's not my thing/takes too long" or "I love this, this is now my favorite hobby". I have seen no in-between. Granted, this is my anecdotal evidence, but it certainly trumps your assertion that is completely unsupported by any evidence.</p><p></p><p>Yes, they do care about the younger generation more, because unfortunately, people die, and older people die more quickly than younger people. This is like complaining that no young kids listen to 70's music anymore. Duh. That's how the world works.</p><p></p><p>Is it just me, or does this make absolutely no sense? Because the consumers of the products (which are the average 5e players that buy these books) won't be the ones making these reviews. These reviews are someone's job, not most players', especially not the "newbs and casuals to the game".</p><p></p><p>Actually, before I bought Eberron: Rising from the Last War, Van Richten's Guide to Ravenloft, Mythic Odysseys of Theros, Guildmaster's Guide to Ravenloft, and Explorer's Guide to Wildemount, I did research on what the settings were like in whatever other platform/edition they were a part of before. I know many people who do the same. I've even done research into Spelljammer (which I have a campaign in), Dark Sun, Planescape, Greyhawk, and Dragonlance, despite them not having any official 5e books.</p><p></p><p>So, yeah. I'm very much not "purely ignorant of what it was before", and neither are my players or friends that play D&D at other tables. We're well aware, and we tend to prefer what it is like now, not what it was before.</p><p></p><p>Not just absolute BS, but also absolutely unfounded and unwarranted.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Levistus's_Leviathan, post: 8283781, member: 7023887"] Does a confrontation with a Darklord require trying to fight/kill them? Remember, a major part of Ravenloft is that the Dark Powers have control over who lives and who dies when it comes to the Darklords of Ravenloft. A confrontation can be entirely social interaction, and turning to combat is discouraged not because the designers of the book were lazy or some nonsense like that, but because they wanted to give the DM guidance on how to deal with it and personalize it to their own campaign instead of saying "here are the official stats, players must be X-level high to fight X-Darklord". The book at least gives guidance for stats of the darklords, which, IMO, takes more work than just creating a new official stat block. Changes to something don't mean that the previous thing was bad, and they don't mean that you have to like the changes or even use them. Maybe they were trying to turn some of the "diamonds in the rough" into actual diamonds? In order to change a "diamond in the rough" into an actual diamond, one has to change certain parts of that "diamond in the rough", ne? I have absolutely no idea what this is even saying or how it is relevant. [I]Checks stats on how many people are playing D&D ever since 5e started[/I] Oh, right. Now is the "Golden Age of D&D". Not anytime in the past. Yes you will. However, complaining about something doesn't mean that it's "unnecessary or blatantly terrible". By no means am I saying that 5e is perfect, but the vast majority of the changes were for the better. There's a reason 5e is the most popular edition in D&D history. It's mostly due to the simplification of needlessly complex rules, and being more user-friendly than previous editions. [I]Raises hand[/I] I have been playing D&D for just over 4 and a half years now. I guess that makes me count as a "newb" in comparison to most of the active posters here, but I'm definitely not "casual to the game" and don't know anyone that I have introduced to D&D that enjoy it that are (which are 6 of my cousins, 6 of my friends ) "casuals to the game". Everyone that I have introduced to the game has either been "eh, it's not my thing/takes too long" or "I love this, this is now my favorite hobby". I have seen no in-between. Granted, this is my anecdotal evidence, but it certainly trumps your assertion that is completely unsupported by any evidence. Yes, they do care about the younger generation more, because unfortunately, people die, and older people die more quickly than younger people. This is like complaining that no young kids listen to 70's music anymore. Duh. That's how the world works. Is it just me, or does this make absolutely no sense? Because the consumers of the products (which are the average 5e players that buy these books) won't be the ones making these reviews. These reviews are someone's job, not most players', especially not the "newbs and casuals to the game". Actually, before I bought Eberron: Rising from the Last War, Van Richten's Guide to Ravenloft, Mythic Odysseys of Theros, Guildmaster's Guide to Ravenloft, and Explorer's Guide to Wildemount, I did research on what the settings were like in whatever other platform/edition they were a part of before. I know many people who do the same. I've even done research into Spelljammer (which I have a campaign in), Dark Sun, Planescape, Greyhawk, and Dragonlance, despite them not having any official 5e books. So, yeah. I'm very much not "purely ignorant of what it was before", and neither are my players or friends that play D&D at other tables. We're well aware, and we tend to prefer what it is like now, not what it was before. Not just absolute BS, but also absolutely unfounded and unwarranted. [/QUOTE]
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