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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 8285989" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>Alignment isn't a whole different matter. It's just content you personally didn't happen to like, for a variety of reasons which are essentially the same reasons others didn't like content you did like.</p><p></p><p>Most made arguments that the impact additional content they didn't want (like some subclasses, spells, etc.) in the game had on their games was negative because it changed the culture of the game, changed player expectations about how the game worked or should work, change their expectations about what other players might choose to use, expectations about possible NPCs which might use those things, etc..</p><p></p><p>Most importantly, every time some new ability was introduced in expansion material it pigeon holed that type of ability to requiring that thing. So before a PC or NPC could try that thing with a skill check or tool use or some other ability, but now they would be "stepping on the toes" of that new material and that wouldn't be fair. So new content constrained behaviors for those who didn't choose that content. It reduced the flexibility of players and DMs, and forced them into a more narrow range of behavior, simply because that other content existed. </p><p></p><p>Those are the identical reasons you have for wanting alignment out. It's just now the shoe is on the other foot, so suddenly your reasons are "special" relative to their reasons for not wanting additional content which you told them they could simply ignore.</p><p></p><p>So yeah, pretty hypocritical. You should just ignore alignment like you always did and not worry about content others might like which you are ignoring. It's not like alignment was hurting your games because it existed, right?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 8285989, member: 2525"] Alignment isn't a whole different matter. It's just content you personally didn't happen to like, for a variety of reasons which are essentially the same reasons others didn't like content you did like. Most made arguments that the impact additional content they didn't want (like some subclasses, spells, etc.) in the game had on their games was negative because it changed the culture of the game, changed player expectations about how the game worked or should work, change their expectations about what other players might choose to use, expectations about possible NPCs which might use those things, etc.. Most importantly, every time some new ability was introduced in expansion material it pigeon holed that type of ability to requiring that thing. So before a PC or NPC could try that thing with a skill check or tool use or some other ability, but now they would be "stepping on the toes" of that new material and that wouldn't be fair. So new content constrained behaviors for those who didn't choose that content. It reduced the flexibility of players and DMs, and forced them into a more narrow range of behavior, simply because that other content existed. Those are the identical reasons you have for wanting alignment out. It's just now the shoe is on the other foot, so suddenly your reasons are "special" relative to their reasons for not wanting additional content which you told them they could simply ignore. So yeah, pretty hypocritical. You should just ignore alignment like you always did and not worry about content others might like which you are ignoring. It's not like alignment was hurting your games because it existed, right? [/QUOTE]
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