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<blockquote data-quote="jasin" data-source="post: 3801518" data-attributes="member: 7531"><p>I'm expecting the swordmage to be something along the lines of the duskblade: a magically-powered warrior, with magic that's very narrow in scope. I think something along the lines of eldritch knight or arcane trickster, which keeps the wizard's flexibility, would be better.</p><p></p><p>I'm playing a wizard in Age of Worms that was sort of modeled on Vance's stuff. Currently, he's human paragon 3/wizard 6/loremaster 6. I'm quite happy with the character, both in general, and in terms of modeling Vance within D&D's framework.</p><p></p><p>d8s and longsword proficiency from human paragon made me not completely uncomfortable in a fight at lower levels. Of course, by 15th level, I'm utterly useless with the sword, but by 15th level we're closer to Rhialto than Turjan, so that's OK. I took diplomacy as my always-class skill and picked up a bit of bluff and sense motive, so I could be a Vancian <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />ter rather than the typical D&D bookish nerd of a wizard.</p><p></p><p>Loremaster isn't really integral to the concept, it's mostly there because it's like wizard only better, but it helps indirectly: 4 skill points per level, use magic device and perform (oratory) all add their own bit.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jasin, post: 3801518, member: 7531"] I'm expecting the swordmage to be something along the lines of the duskblade: a magically-powered warrior, with magic that's very narrow in scope. I think something along the lines of eldritch knight or arcane trickster, which keeps the wizard's flexibility, would be better. I'm playing a wizard in Age of Worms that was sort of modeled on Vance's stuff. Currently, he's human paragon 3/wizard 6/loremaster 6. I'm quite happy with the character, both in general, and in terms of modeling Vance within D&D's framework. d8s and longsword proficiency from human paragon made me not completely uncomfortable in a fight at lower levels. Of course, by 15th level, I'm utterly useless with the sword, but by 15th level we're closer to Rhialto than Turjan, so that's OK. I took diplomacy as my always-class skill and picked up a bit of bluff and sense motive, so I could be a Vancian :):):):):):):):)ter rather than the typical D&D bookish nerd of a wizard. Loremaster isn't really integral to the concept, it's mostly there because it's like wizard only better, but it helps indirectly: 4 skill points per level, use magic device and perform (oratory) all add their own bit. [/QUOTE]
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