Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="GreyICE" data-source="post: 5857510" data-attributes="member: 6684526">The problem with those solutions is you don't have a very cool class.A Druid with lousy wild shape, lousy companion, and lousy spells may end up as good as your average class, but it still feels like your abilities are subpar.&nbsp; Remember the Bard?&nbsp; Average fighter, mediocre caster, mediocre (non-optimized) buffer?&nbsp; Actually quite strong in 3e (mostly 'cause being a caster was broken) but not well loved.&nbsp; Even people who hate on 4e usually admit the 4e bard was just a huge improvement.&nbsp; A coherent, focused leader with truly interesting powers.A good solution is not 'give the Druid a bunch of bad abilities and pray that they add up to exactly as good as a class with a single focus.' Because that sort of balancing act, easy to fall off the ledge.&nbsp;&nbsp; It happened with virtually every other 'jack of all trades' class.As for having the cleric use short term buffs, congrats.&nbsp; You just rediscovered encounter powers, and the cleric is supposed to be Vancian.&nbsp; You really think you waste limited daily slots on short term buffs unless they are godly? We're not talking &quot;+2 strength&quot; here.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GreyICE, post: 5857510, member: 6684526"] The problem with those solutions is you don't have a very cool class. A Druid with lousy wild shape, lousy companion, and lousy spells may end up as good as your average class, but it still feels like your abilities are subpar. Remember the Bard? Average fighter, mediocre caster, mediocre (non-optimized) buffer? Actually quite strong in 3e (mostly 'cause being a caster was broken) but not well loved. Even people who hate on 4e usually admit the 4e bard was just a huge improvement. A coherent, focused leader with truly interesting powers. A good solution is not 'give the Druid a bunch of bad abilities and pray that they add up to exactly as good as a class with a single focus.' Because that sort of balancing act, easy to fall off the ledge. It happened with virtually every other 'jack of all trades' class. As for having the cleric use short term buffs, congrats. You just rediscovered encounter powers, and the cleric is supposed to be Vancian. You really think you waste limited daily slots on short term buffs unless they are godly? We're not talking "+2 strength" here. [/QUOTE]

Verification