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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 5858114" data-attributes="member: 1465"><p>I can't speak for the 3ed druid because I've seen only a few, and were always interpreted as being restricted when not in natural surroundings.</p><p></p><p>But I've seen many 3ed clerics and played a few myself, and I have never seen them breaking the game or everybody's fun. The one and only thing that ever bothered me about them was the automatic knowledge of every clerical spell, both because it is very confusing for beginners and because it makes the cleric too flexible in the hands of a more seasoned or attentive player. Beside that problem, the cleric is better as a solo character because she can buff & heal herself, but it's not what happens in a group game unless everybody plays for himself, in which case I don't blame the rules but the players.</p><p></p><p>Still, apparently half of the gamers do think that the cleric needed to change because it is overpowered, while the other half thinks that it needed to change because nobody wanted to play it...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I am sure it's not your case, but when I read someone ranting that the "system breaks apart", that there is an "only way" to fix things and characters are "basically useless", normally I think that such person would just never like any ruleset.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 5858114, member: 1465"] I can't speak for the 3ed druid because I've seen only a few, and were always interpreted as being restricted when not in natural surroundings. But I've seen many 3ed clerics and played a few myself, and I have never seen them breaking the game or everybody's fun. The one and only thing that ever bothered me about them was the automatic knowledge of every clerical spell, both because it is very confusing for beginners and because it makes the cleric too flexible in the hands of a more seasoned or attentive player. Beside that problem, the cleric is better as a solo character because she can buff & heal herself, but it's not what happens in a group game unless everybody plays for himself, in which case I don't blame the rules but the players. Still, apparently half of the gamers do think that the cleric needed to change because it is overpowered, while the other half thinks that it needed to change because nobody wanted to play it... I am sure it's not your case, but when I read someone ranting that the "system breaks apart", that there is an "only way" to fix things and characters are "basically useless", normally I think that such person would just never like any ruleset. [/QUOTE]
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