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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tlantl" data-source="post: 5861906" data-attributes="member: 55225">This CoDzilla thing is a phenomenon created by 3e. Take all of the stuff that was added to these classes away and return them to their original states and the problem goes away.  All of the things that restricted spell casters in the past were discarded as unnecessary when they were designing 3e. The classes all got boosts of power. The problem was these boosts did little good for the non casters and opened the flood gates of abuses aplenty for the spell casters. I think the more potentially more powerful classes need to be reigned in more by making them harder and less desirable to play.  Who wants to play a wizard with only 10 spells? Who would want to try to be the mage if they had the real chance of failing to learn the really good spells? Who wants to play a character who is likely to lose half of their castings in an encounter to minor damage? Let them go nova, then make them continue the adventure using mundane equipment like everyone else.Clerics can fight and wear armor why give them damaging attack spells too. Clerics were regarded as the class of least desirable because all they could really do is heal. Lets go back to that. take all of the overpowering buffs and metamagic feats and dump them into the trash. I also think the competition between players at the table and the seeming envy of casters by those playing non casters might be an issue too. D&D is a team sport play as a team.</blockquote>

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