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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 5782730" data-attributes="member: 710">I think the biggest problem of the Crossbow wielding Wizard out of power was that the Crossbow was really sucky when he used it. MAybe a Fighter or Rogue could be good with it (_maybe_), but in 3E, you had 1/2 BAB and not as much Dex as a focused guy.I could totally see a Wizard that uses his sword or staff and wields it with the prowess similar to that of a Fighter - but where the Fighter can execute special maneuvers, the Wizard relies mostly on magical spells. But both hit and inflict damage equally well. Tenser's Transformation was kinda like "Be Gandalf 1/day for a minute" spell.I could see a 4E Wizard variant that uses "martial" powers as At-Wills, a mix of Encounter ARcane and Martial abilities, and Daily spells, fighting alongside the Fighter. This may actually be a cool class to play, and more a matter of preference whether you throw magic missiles or swing your sword - but under no circumstance want I see my Wizard fight as worse as a mere Commoner. Call him "bookish" and all - he is still an adventure. He isn't totally out of shape, and he's seen and been in swordfights before!</blockquote>