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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Whizbang Dustyboots" data-source="post: 3298136" data-attributes="member: 11760">I want you to come back in six months and confirm that the game worked out for you this way. Because, honestly, you like the same stuff I do in a game, but you're praising Vanguard while consciously ignoring most of what the game is about. That's like playing a game of football for the beautiful turf.If you want a game where you're not going to have to have your nose to the grindstone 24/7 to feel like you've accomplished something, nothing Brad has fingerprints on is going to be that game, IMO. There are a number of other MMORPGs that are designed to allow explorers and casual players to have fun -- WoW, incidentally, gets dissed by Brad regularly for being one of them -- but this is a strange one to look to that for, since it's very consciously not Brad's design goal with his game.Now, he does like separating his players out into tiers, and that requires non-uber players to watch the exploits of the higher tier players (not my notion, Brad's -- he's gone into quite a bit of detail about how this is an important part of the social game), so you will be fulfilling a role in the Vanguard ecosystem, but it doesn't seem like that was one of your stated goals.Honestly, Brad does create nice worlds, although I think some of his design ideals are a little silly, and he likes to dress up griefing as "social gaming," but I think a lot of Vanguard sounds like fun. It's the first major MMORPG to have an Arabian Nights area, for instance. But he's been very clear about his design goals in his regular giant tracts on his message boards. Giving casual players a sense of accomplishment isn't one of them: His earliest posts explicitly say Vanguard isn't the game for them, rather what he believes are the "core" gamers who spend many more hours a week playing are the game's intended audience.If you're looking for a game that you can jump in and out of when  you have time, and want to be able to feel like you've gotten something done while playing 45 minutes or 90, and that's it, I would recommend CoX or WoW or even the redesigned EQ1 before I'd recommend Vanguard.</blockquote>

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