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Message: <blockquote data-quote="zendruid" data-source="post: 4838789" data-attributes="member: 84048">The stuff from dragon mag that really is questionable has been put forward for revision by the DM. If he declares that it needs to be changed it needs to be changed. This should not prevent it from being used, only from being used as written.Part of the joy of D&D 3.5 is that there are so many possible variations from the typical character archetypes. This would be why they include prestige classes and rules for creating variant classes in the DMG (a core book not a splat book or supplement).These rules are guidelines at best and are written as such. The DM holds the ultimate say in this matter and I defer to him.The simple heart of the issue isn't should this be allowed because it's from Dragon but how does this need to be adjudicated to make it allowable in this particular campaign with these particular players.I will be the first to admit there are several issues with all the supplemental material from any source. That is why there is errata, sage advice, forums for discussion and DM fiat. There must be room, however, to allow for expansion upon the core rules or were are playing a game that rewards hard-line rules lawyering versus creative thinking.If there weren't so many attractive (at least on the surface) options there would only ever be a rogue, a wizard, a fighter and a cleric in every group. These characters players would then pursue this single class for 20 levels and the game would end. That sounds more like WoW than D&D to me.I've given my two cents as the player of said potential character. The DM has the final say. If he rules against me so be it. I will find another way (perhaps a more creative one) to make the character fit the concept in mind.Just on a side note, the amazing mumford has, insisted on using supplemental rules from Dragon. Particularly the misfire table for firearms. Much to his chagrin, I have yet to get a critical failure on this table. Woops maybe I just jinxed myself.</blockquote>

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