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<blockquote data-quote="Seraphael" data-source="post: 121258" data-attributes="member: 2003"><p>My philosophy when writing house rules is to do as little work (an therefore change as little) as possible to keep the needed playtesting to a minimum (preferably as close to none as possible).</p><p></p><p>By looking at the class, I'm going to assume you have OA (it looks alot like a shugenja - which is one of two excellent choices for making a less combat oriented priest class IMO, with the other being the Shaman). In case you don't, your base statistics (Saves, BAB, HD, Spells per day, and Spells known - with an exception I noted below) are identicle to that class, so it is a good playtested class to make comparisons with.</p><p></p><p>One thing that does strike me is that they know even more spells than the Shugenja (which is a major point of balance in the prepared vs spontaneous arcane spellcasters, I'd assume that the same would apply to divine spellcasters), can cast the same number of spells per day and have more special abilities (the Shugenja has two relatively minor abilities). I think that Combat Casting and Divine Protection are both far superior to the Shugenja's Element Focus and Sense Elements abilities. In addition, by the time this character is 20th level all domain spells are Still, Silent and Quickened at no cost. Plus they gain 3 domain powers that the Shugenja never gets (they get school spells that provide no special abilities at all).This could be a balance nightmare if the domain spells are too powerful. Keep in mind that at high level domain spells will be used more often than the rest because of their inherent power, possibly to the exclusion of other spells.</p><p></p><p>So, without comparing spell lists, this class is far overpowered when compared to the Shugenja (which is balanced with the core classes in the PHB). The one saving grace of this class is that it does use a spell list (I'm taking your word for it, anyway) that is weaker than the cleric, where the Shugenja uses a more powerful spell list (again, in case you don't have OA, it is close to being on par with the druid IMO, with a slight tendency to be more powerful). Anyway, here are a few recomendations to consider:</p><p></p><p>1) Limit the number of times per day each ability can be used to 3+ cha bonus or something similar (or maybe 1+wis+cha bonus)</p><p>2) drop the metamagic abilities and strengthen the base spell list or available domain spell lists</p><p>3) Be very careful of the power of the spell introduced as domain spells, possibly using weaker spells at higher levels to compensate.</p><p>4) Follow the Shujenja school pattern and don't provide domain powers for the domains.</p><p>5) Require that all spells have a divine focus (like the Shugenjas prayer scrolls) without which the cannot cast any spells.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Seraphael, post: 121258, member: 2003"] My philosophy when writing house rules is to do as little work (an therefore change as little) as possible to keep the needed playtesting to a minimum (preferably as close to none as possible). By looking at the class, I'm going to assume you have OA (it looks alot like a shugenja - which is one of two excellent choices for making a less combat oriented priest class IMO, with the other being the Shaman). In case you don't, your base statistics (Saves, BAB, HD, Spells per day, and Spells known - with an exception I noted below) are identicle to that class, so it is a good playtested class to make comparisons with. One thing that does strike me is that they know even more spells than the Shugenja (which is a major point of balance in the prepared vs spontaneous arcane spellcasters, I'd assume that the same would apply to divine spellcasters), can cast the same number of spells per day and have more special abilities (the Shugenja has two relatively minor abilities). I think that Combat Casting and Divine Protection are both far superior to the Shugenja's Element Focus and Sense Elements abilities. In addition, by the time this character is 20th level all domain spells are Still, Silent and Quickened at no cost. Plus they gain 3 domain powers that the Shugenja never gets (they get school spells that provide no special abilities at all).This could be a balance nightmare if the domain spells are too powerful. Keep in mind that at high level domain spells will be used more often than the rest because of their inherent power, possibly to the exclusion of other spells. So, without comparing spell lists, this class is far overpowered when compared to the Shugenja (which is balanced with the core classes in the PHB). The one saving grace of this class is that it does use a spell list (I'm taking your word for it, anyway) that is weaker than the cleric, where the Shugenja uses a more powerful spell list (again, in case you don't have OA, it is close to being on par with the druid IMO, with a slight tendency to be more powerful). Anyway, here are a few recomendations to consider: 1) Limit the number of times per day each ability can be used to 3+ cha bonus or something similar (or maybe 1+wis+cha bonus) 2) drop the metamagic abilities and strengthen the base spell list or available domain spell lists 3) Be very careful of the power of the spell introduced as domain spells, possibly using weaker spells at higher levels to compensate. 4) Follow the Shujenja school pattern and don't provide domain powers for the domains. 5) Require that all spells have a divine focus (like the Shugenjas prayer scrolls) without which the cannot cast any spells. [/QUOTE]
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