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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Spatzimaus" data-source="post: 3261884" data-attributes="member: 3051">I have to say, having played with the system I mentioned above, it's not as powerful as you might think.First, the limit on number of points per day REALLY hurts.  In my system, that hypothetical level 10 Wizard with 18 INT would have 14 points per day.  A quicken costs 4 points; a maximize costs 3.  Those points run out REALLY fast.  In the OP's version, he'd only have 9 points, even worse; count how much metamagic your players use in the course of one day, and you'll see how big of a negative this is.Then, look at the other drawbacks I mentioned: first, you can only use one metaform at a time (no Maximized Empowered Heightened Still Silent spells).  This one's essential, I think; it's just too abuseable otherwise.  And second, by disabling the metaform for N rounds, the +4 metaforms become like your level 9 spells; you only get one or two per fight, but they make a huge difference when they come out.  In fact, they're sort of like a dragon's breath weapon in practice; there's not really a downside to using it when it's recharged, but you want to pick the right time.  (The +1s, on the other hand, you can almost use with impunity.)The OP didn't have these drawbacks, although his casting time limit was harsher than mine.That's a big part of why my group goes 2-for-1 on metamagic feats (one feat gives you two metaforms, although you have to work your way up to the big ones) and gets a free metaform at class level 2; no one would take something expensive like Persistent Spell if they only got a couple uses per day of it at most, and that only if you didn't use any other metamagic.  In practice, most players took one or two "use often" forms like Empower mixed with a bunch of "special case" forms (Still, Silent) and maybe one expensive form for when you really, really need to empty a room in one shot.  That way, you could use almost all your points for the empowers but save a few for emergencies.</blockquote>

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