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<blockquote data-quote="dmhelp" data-source="post: 8097097" data-attributes="member: 7025338">Okay, I normally run a no multiclassing game and this is my attempt at bringing back the 1st/2nd edition Fighter/Wizard where you advance in both classes at once instead of the 3rd edition style of the standard multiclassing rules in 5th edition (which is usually underwhelming for 10/10 splits). The downside in the original 1st edition rules was level limits. I've tentatively set the cap at level 16 (suggesting that theoretically a level 16 Fighter/Wizard is equivalent to a level 20 Wizard). You would lose out on the level 19 ASI. But compared to a 10/10 split you would be gaining 6th-8th level spells and the 2 class features at levels 11, 13, 14, and 15 (so potentially 8 features depending on the class). You would still be a level 20 character as far as hp, proficiency, and cantrip damage.Multiclassing<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Choose two classes to be advanced in simultaneously (at character level 1 both classes are level 1), starting at character level 2 the class levels will be lower than the character level (e.g. a character level 16 Fighter/Wizard has level 12 Fighter and Wizard classes with corresponding class features)</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Character level determines hp, proficiency bonus, cantrip damage, and, if a double caster combination (e.g. Sorcerer/Warlock),&nbsp; spell slots per day (based on the most favorable class treating Warlocks as a full caster, see examples at end)</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Multiclass level determines class features, spells known/prepared, and, if a caster/non caster combination (e.g. Barbarian/Druid), spell slots per day</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Take the average dice size (rounded down to the closest even sided die) for hit points gained on each character level (e.g. a Fighter/Rogue would receive 1d8 sized hit dice instead of 1d9)</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Choose&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; one of the classes to determine saving throws (e.g. a&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Fighter/Wizard could choose Str/Con or Int/Wis)</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Gain the lower number of skills from between the two classes and then choose from both lists (e.g. a Fighter/Rogue would gain 2 skills chosen from either the Fighter or Rogue lists)</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Gain&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the other proficiencies (armor, weapons, and tools) of both classes</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Barbarian/Monks may use either Unarmored Defense at any time</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">No&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; more than one ASI can be gained per level (i.e. a character level 5 multiclassed level 4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Fighter/Wizard has only acheived one ASI)</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Channel Divinity and Extra Attack are handled per standard multiclassing rules</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Warlock double casters treat Mystic Arcanum spells as additional spells known which require spell slots and can be upcast regularly</li>
</ul>Double Caster Examples:A character level 20 Eldritch Knight/Arcane Trickster gains spell slots as a level 20 third caster (Eldritch Knight or Arcane Trickster)A character level 20 Eldritch Knight/Paladin gains spell slots as a level 20 half caster (Paladin or Ranger)A character level 20 Cleric/Paladin gains spell slots as a level 20 full caster (Bard, Cleric, Druid, Sorcerer, or Wizard)A character level 20 Paladin/Warlock gains spell slots as a level 20 full caster (instead of pact magic progression)Caster/Non Caster Examples:A character level 20 Eldritch Knight/Assassin gains spell slots as a level 16 third casterA character level 20 Four Elements Monk/Sorcerer gains spell slots as a level 16 full casterA character level 20 Barbarian/Warlock gains spell slots as a level 16 Warlock (standard pact magic progression)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <table style='width: 100%'><tr><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
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Multiclass Level
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Proficiency Bonus
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1
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1
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2
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2
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1
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2
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3
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2
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2
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4
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3
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
2
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5
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4
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3
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6
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
5
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3
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7
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5
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3
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8
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
6
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3
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9
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
7
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
4
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td></tr><tr><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
10
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
8
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
4
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td></tr><tr><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
11
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
9
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
4
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td></tr><tr><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
12
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
9
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
4
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td></tr><tr><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
13
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
10
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
5
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td></tr><tr><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
14
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
11
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
5
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td></tr><tr><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
15
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
12
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
5
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16
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
13
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
5
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17
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
13
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
6
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td></tr><tr><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
18
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
14
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
6
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td></tr><tr><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
19
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
15
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
6
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td></tr><tr><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
20
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
16
&nbsp;&nbsp; </td><td>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 
6
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[QUOTE="dmhelp, post: 8097097, member: 7025338"] Okay, I normally run a no multiclassing game and this is my attempt at bringing back the 1st/2nd edition Fighter/Wizard where you advance in both classes at once instead of the 3rd edition style of the standard multiclassing rules in 5th edition (which is usually underwhelming for 10/10 splits). The downside in the original 1st edition rules was level limits. I've tentatively set the cap at level 16 (suggesting that theoretically a level 16 Fighter/Wizard is equivalent to a level 20 Wizard). You would lose out on the level 19 ASI. But compared to a 10/10 split you would be gaining 6th-8th level spells and the 2 class features at levels 11, 13, 14, and 15 (so potentially 8 features depending on the class). You would still be a level 20 character as far as hp, proficiency, and cantrip damage. Multiclassing [LIST] [*]Choose two classes to be advanced in simultaneously (at character level 1 both classes are level 1), starting at character level 2 the class levels will be lower than the character level ([I]e.g. a character level 16 Fighter/Wizard has level 12 Fighter and Wizard classes with corresponding class features)[/I] [*]Character level determines hp, proficiency bonus, cantrip damage, and, if a double caster combination [I](e.g. Sorcerer/Warlock)[/I], spell slots per day (based on the most favorable class treating Warlocks as a full caster, see examples at end) [*]Multiclass level determines class features, spells known/prepared, and, if a caster/non caster combination ([I]e.g. Barbarian/Druid[/I]), spell slots per day [*]Take the average dice size (rounded down to the closest even sided die) for hit points gained on each character level ([I]e.g. a Fighter/Rogue would receive 1d8 sized hit dice instead of 1d9[/I]) [*]Choose one of the classes to determine saving throws ([I]e.g. a Fighter/Wizard could choose Str/Con or Int/Wis[/I]) [*]Gain the lower number of skills from between the two classes and then choose from both lists ([I]e.g. a Fighter/Rogue would gain 2 skills chosen from either the Fighter or Rogue lists[/I]) [*]Gain the other proficiencies (armor, weapons, and tools) of both classes [*]Barbarian/Monks may use either Unarmored Defense at any time [*]No more than one ASI can be gained per level ([I]i.e. a character level 5 multiclassed level 4 Fighter/Wizard has only acheived one ASI[/I]) [*]Channel Divinity and Extra Attack are handled per standard multiclassing rules [*]Warlock double casters treat Mystic Arcanum spells as additional spells known which require spell slots and can be upcast regularly [/LIST] Double Caster Examples: A character level 20 Eldritch Knight/Arcane Trickster gains spell slots as a level 20 third caster (Eldritch Knight or Arcane Trickster) A character level 20 Eldritch Knight/Paladin gains spell slots as a level 20 half caster (Paladin or Ranger) A character level 20 Cleric/Paladin gains spell slots as a level 20 full caster (Bard, Cleric, Druid, Sorcerer, or Wizard) A character level 20 Paladin/Warlock gains spell slots as a level 20 full caster (instead of pact magic progression) Caster/Non Caster Examples: A character level 20 Eldritch Knight/Assassin gains spell slots as a level 16 third caster A character level 20 Four Elements Monk/Sorcerer gains spell slots as a level 16 full caster A character level 20 Barbarian/Warlock gains spell slots as a level 16 Warlock (standard pact magic progression) [TABLE] [TR] [TD] [CENTER]Character Level[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]Multiclass Level[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]Proficiency Bonus[/CENTER] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [CENTER]1[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]1[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]2[/CENTER] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [CENTER]2[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]1[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]2[/CENTER] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [CENTER]3[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]2[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]2[/CENTER] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [CENTER]4[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]3[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]2[/CENTER] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [CENTER]5[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]4[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]3[/CENTER] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [CENTER]6[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]5[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]3[/CENTER] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [CENTER]7[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]5[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]3[/CENTER] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [CENTER]8[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]6[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]3[/CENTER] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [CENTER]9[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]7[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]4[/CENTER] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [CENTER]10[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]8[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]4[/CENTER] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [CENTER]11[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]9[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]4[/CENTER] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [CENTER]12[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]9[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]4[/CENTER] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [CENTER]13[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]10[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]5[/CENTER] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [CENTER]14[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]11[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]5[/CENTER] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [CENTER]15[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]12[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]5[/CENTER] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [CENTER]16[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]13[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]5[/CENTER] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [CENTER]17[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]13[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]6[/CENTER] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [CENTER]18[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]14[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]6[/CENTER] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [CENTER]19[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]15[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]6[/CENTER] [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] [CENTER]20[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]16[/CENTER] [/TD] [TD] [CENTER]6[/CENTER][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/QUOTE]

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