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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Steverooo" data-source="post: 1573339" data-attributes="member: 9410">Here's an idea that I have put out, many times, on these threads...  You want a spell-less Ranger?  For every spell that they would be able to cast (12 + bonus for high WIS, at 20th level), let them pick a spell of the appropriate level, and give them an (Ex) ability to do the same thing, at will (within reason... no Cure X Wounds, obviously!)So, at fourth level, when a Ranger with a 14+ WIS would get a whopping 1 spell/day, they instead get one (Ex) ability...  Looking at the list, the PC could pick Speak With Animals, and always be able to talk to his animal companion, but instead chooses Longstrider, and gains 40' movement, just like the Barbarian.After gaining a few more first-level powers, when a Ranger would ordinarily get a second level spell, he can now choose a 2nd-level (Ex) ability, such as always being able to set a snare, if a rope/vine and tree are handy.Upon obtaining acess to fourth leve3l spells, he could always be under the effects of an (Ex) Freedom of Movement, if he wanted.  In any case, each Ranger would have 3+ special abilities which are constantly active, in return for losing acess to all of the other spells...  A reasonably decent trade-off, if you ask me...Now some common sense has to be used, here, as the Cure Light Wounds example shows...  Sure, you could rig up something where a high-level Ranger can "find herbs" and cure 1D8+ HP/day, or something, but...In any case, giving Rangers (Ex) abilities that let them do the things that spells used to seems fine, IMHO...  ESPECIALLY since many of those spells (Snare, etc.) are replacements for missing abilities (Set & Disarm Traps).YMMV, of course.</blockquote>

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