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Message: <blockquote data-quote="IronWolf" data-source="post: 5749130" data-attributes="member: 21076">A wizard that doesn't spend money is going to be trivial to hit at higher levels, have a hard time getting through spell resistance, have lower spell DCs and probably fail a lot of saves. Not spending gold as a wizard is not without its drawbacks.They as in the party? More power to them if the wizard cast a divination spell or used knowledge checks to help the rest of the party be more effective. I doubt a wizard that spent zero gold is going to be able to "burn" through a dungeon of any moderate length without help from the rest of his or her party. Sure the wizard can provide some extra-dimensional spaces for the party to rest in the dungeon. I don't think a dungeon is going to stay static during that time and rest themselves. They will call up reinforcements, they will try to determine where the intruders were last seen and strengthen defenses. Maybe even get some low-level casters of their own up to cast some detect magics to help narrow their location down.  They might get their 8 hours of rest, but I suspect the environment will have changed during that time.If they are to the point where they are using "fry and scry" tactics then they likely are high enough level to have some reputation. And folks they consider adversaries are likely high enough level and intelligent enough to take some precautions. There are lots of tactics that the enemy NPCs might have put in place to either outright avoid these types of ambush or readily escape if PCs show up in their feast hall.And really, if this wizard that spent no gold during his leveling up teleports in he's getting maybe one round off before he is crippled by adequately geared enemy NPCs. I mean the wizard is going to be super easy to hit and have a tough time making saves that count. If the wizard brought his buddies with him, then it sounds like they are providing a valuable purpose. Shoot, a strong fighter or barbarian gets around locked doors too. Again if a wizard is up to invisibility, greater invisibility and flight then the folks he is fighting likely have level appropriate counter measures against such tactics. Sleep takes a full round to cast. If the wizard tries to cast this in a one-on-one fight as you seem to be describing above the wizard will need a concentration check. It is really all going to come down to the the dice, one good hit by the fighter and the wizard is dead. One good concentration check and a bad save by the fighter and he's asleep. I'm not seeing either one as particularly overpowered in the above scenario.Covered this above, but again - a wizard that doesn't spend his gold is going to be trivial to hit at higher levels, have a hard time getting through spell resistance, have lower spell DCs and probably fail a lot of saves.A wizard that doesn't spend some money on some scrolls and such simply isn't going to be able to accomplish all the feats you've described above - clearing entire dungeons in one fell swoop, etc, etc.</blockquote>

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