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<blockquote data-quote="Thurmas" data-source="post: 7564267" data-attributes="member: 6866167"><p>So, I realize this suggestion will already go in a little different direction then what you are asking for, but...</p><p></p><p>I've always been annoyed that in 5E every single class, except the rogue, either gets full spell progression through level 9 spells, or gets Extra Attack at level 5. Some classes even get both through their subclass, ie Bladesinger, Valor Bard or even Pact of the Blade Warlock with Thirsting Blade.</p><p></p><p>While I think that just giving the Rogue Extra Attack and changing nothing else would be too much, I think the class should certainly get Extra Attack.</p><p></p><p>To that end, I would propose making Sneak Attack an action, and not just a rider on a regular attack. Also, increase the damage to 1d8:</p><p></p><p>Beginning at 1st level, you know how to strike subtly and exploit a foe’s distraction. As an action, once per turn, make an attack roll against a creature. If the attack hits, you deal an extra 1d8 damage. You must have advantage on the attack roll to use this ability and the attack must use a finesse or a ranged weapon.</p><p></p><p>You don’t need advantage on the attack roll if another enemy of the target is within 5 feet of it, that enemy isn’t incapacitated, and you don’t have disadvantage on the attack roll.</p><p></p><p>The amount of the extra damage increases as you gain levels in this class, as shown in the Sneak Attack column of the Rogue table.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So with that change, give the Rogue Extra Attack at 5 and the Dueling, Archery and Two Weapon Fighting style choices at level 2.</p><p></p><p>This overall doesn't increase their damage that much, but it does increase their flexibility, making them less reliant on Sneak Attack to be viable in combat. Can't get sneak attack this round? At least you get your two attacks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thurmas, post: 7564267, member: 6866167"] So, I realize this suggestion will already go in a little different direction then what you are asking for, but... I've always been annoyed that in 5E every single class, except the rogue, either gets full spell progression through level 9 spells, or gets Extra Attack at level 5. Some classes even get both through their subclass, ie Bladesinger, Valor Bard or even Pact of the Blade Warlock with Thirsting Blade. While I think that just giving the Rogue Extra Attack and changing nothing else would be too much, I think the class should certainly get Extra Attack. To that end, I would propose making Sneak Attack an action, and not just a rider on a regular attack. Also, increase the damage to 1d8: Beginning at 1st level, you know how to strike subtly and exploit a foe’s distraction. As an action, once per turn, make an attack roll against a creature. If the attack hits, you deal an extra 1d8 damage. You must have advantage on the attack roll to use this ability and the attack must use a finesse or a ranged weapon. You don’t need advantage on the attack roll if another enemy of the target is within 5 feet of it, that enemy isn’t incapacitated, and you don’t have disadvantage on the attack roll. The amount of the extra damage increases as you gain levels in this class, as shown in the Sneak Attack column of the Rogue table. So with that change, give the Rogue Extra Attack at 5 and the Dueling, Archery and Two Weapon Fighting style choices at level 2. This overall doesn't increase their damage that much, but it does increase their flexibility, making them less reliant on Sneak Attack to be viable in combat. Can't get sneak attack this round? At least you get your two attacks. [/QUOTE]
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