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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kalendraf" data-source="post: 2056159" data-attributes="member: 3433">Right.  In this case, the room terrain was a slight modifier (probably +1 CR) and the encounter played out about like a CR 11 or 12 probably would have, so my guess is that the 18 HD Advanced Ochre Jelly is a tad bit higher than CR9.The best part was that the characters didn't know it was even a jelly at first - I described it as a thick yellowish liquid rising up thru cracks in the floor, which they assumed to be part of an acid trap in the room.  Nobody has Knowledge (Dungeoneering), or they may have gotten a chance to figure out what it was.  I haven't used many oozes before this, either, so player knowledge didn't creep in to ruin the fun.  After it had risen up, it lunged 10' (ooze making a charge attack, oh yeah!) and reached out and pulled in the monk.  Pretty sweet.</blockquote>