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Message: <blockquote data-quote="reapersaurus" data-source="post: 145198" data-attributes="member: 1194">RogueJK : I did not say you couldn't MAKE a character that was powerful with DotF stuff.I'm saying that even those examples of yours are not good examples, in my opinion.There is not one Prestige Domain in DotF that is unbalancing.Let's look at the word "unbalancing":unbalancing is when a PC can attain something that makes the campaign make radical changes just to accomodate its presence.Unless changes are made, the unbalancing ability takes over and dominates the scenes.NOTHING in DotF can do that, which a simple Improved Invisibility spell does.This is due to the fact that the DM is in charge of all the things you mentioned.Not Arms of Nyr (PC's can't just rip their own arms off and replace them to make them faster, stronger, and harder to hit - this isn't Shadowrun)Not Templar - ya, it's frontloaded, but even if a PC is a Templar, there's no campaign-altering change.Not any prestige domain : how the hell are they going to get a prestige domain other than Exorcist?The DM is in charge of allowing entry into any of the very-restrictive PrC's that grant a prestige domain.If you're requirement is that the classbooks don't add anything that can be manufactured to be useful, or powerful, in them than I don't understand the purpose you want the classbooks to serve.</blockquote>