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Vecna v Acererak v Larloch? Who's The Most Powerful Lich?
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<blockquote data-quote="D1Tremere" data-source="post: 7777249" data-attributes="member: 61148"><p>I do not, no. Not to the extent that you do.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You stated that you think Larloch is a Mary Sue. "A Mary Sue is an idealized and seemingly <strong>perfect</strong> fictional character. Often, this character is recognized as an author insert or wish fulfillment." If you believe him to be perfect and an object of wish fulfillment then you must think him more powerful than Vecna, who is not.</p><p></p><p>I believe the idea that a god is more powerful than anything else is flawed. Gods are actively opposed by other gods, bound by rules, traditions, and often powerful cosmological laws. Their power is often tied directly or indirectly to their believers, making them a bit like politicians in most regards. They cannot act without setting in motion a series of cosmic checks and balances that more often than not end in divine stalemate. I would also submit that even as a greater god, Vecna failed in his mission to remake reality as he would have liked at the city of Sigil due to non-divine intervention from ordinary adventurers. He even lost a large portion of his divine power in the process. How powerful can a god be in a system where they can be defeated, de-powered, or even killed by non-divine agents?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="D1Tremere, post: 7777249, member: 61148"] I do not, no. Not to the extent that you do. You stated that you think Larloch is a Mary Sue. "A Mary Sue is an idealized and seemingly [B]perfect[/B] fictional character. Often, this character is recognized as an author insert or wish fulfillment." If you believe him to be perfect and an object of wish fulfillment then you must think him more powerful than Vecna, who is not. I believe the idea that a god is more powerful than anything else is flawed. Gods are actively opposed by other gods, bound by rules, traditions, and often powerful cosmological laws. Their power is often tied directly or indirectly to their believers, making them a bit like politicians in most regards. They cannot act without setting in motion a series of cosmic checks and balances that more often than not end in divine stalemate. I would also submit that even as a greater god, Vecna failed in his mission to remake reality as he would have liked at the city of Sigil due to non-divine intervention from ordinary adventurers. He even lost a large portion of his divine power in the process. How powerful can a god be in a system where they can be defeated, de-powered, or even killed by non-divine agents? [/QUOTE]
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