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Vecna, Where is he now?
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<blockquote data-quote="Shemeska" data-source="post: 1989706" data-attributes="member: 11697"><p><strong>My haet of DVD knows no end</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The module is trash, let's get that out in the open as the prosecution's exhibit 1.</p><p></p><p>However, Vecna doesn't kick The Lady's butt. The Lady doesn't do anything once Vecna gets inside, or at least doesn't obliterate him in a nanosecond because doing so would cause damage to the multiverse itself (and remove the need for PCs, so logic fails us and we get an adventure).</p><p></p><p>At the end of the module, Vecna is unceremoniously ejected from Sigil, bleeds off most of his gained divinity and ends up only a lesser god (and Iuz breaks free from where he had been absorbed by Vecna). Finally, Her Serenity reorders the multiverse.</p><p></p><p>Though it's important to note that absolutely none of the cosmology changes described in the final pages of Die Vecna Die are those that actually occured between 2e and 3e, not a single one of them. None of the events in the module have been carried over as canon in either Planescape, or Greyhawk (which is all WotC is really handling, having sold RL), and outside of Vecna being back in Greyhawk and no longer a demigod, there's literally -nothing- from the module that has been carried over. They didn't even mention the event in the Planar Handbook's information on Sigil, and considering the destruction that occured in DVD, it'd be impossible to simply omit any reference. Unless it was being retconned or utterly ignored as having ever happened, which it seems to have been.</p><p></p><p></p><p>For what it's worth, Planewalker's take on the module, in chapter 6 of our releases, takes a sort of middle ground compromise that has the events taking place, but ignores the ooc reasoning given some of them (which trashed certain elements of Planescape). We try to avoid ignoring it completely, but going along with the theme of the setting: ie it happened, but it may have been intentionally allowed to happen for reasons we simply don't have the scope of time to understand. While Sigil may have never been in actual danger, Vecna's rise in power may have set into motion events that may in eons or longer stop something worse from happening. Who knows but the Bladed Queen, and She isn't talking certainly. There's plenty of IC speculation in our take on it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shemeska, post: 1989706, member: 11697"] [b]My haet of DVD knows no end[/b] The module is trash, let's get that out in the open as the prosecution's exhibit 1. However, Vecna doesn't kick The Lady's butt. The Lady doesn't do anything once Vecna gets inside, or at least doesn't obliterate him in a nanosecond because doing so would cause damage to the multiverse itself (and remove the need for PCs, so logic fails us and we get an adventure). At the end of the module, Vecna is unceremoniously ejected from Sigil, bleeds off most of his gained divinity and ends up only a lesser god (and Iuz breaks free from where he had been absorbed by Vecna). Finally, Her Serenity reorders the multiverse. Though it's important to note that absolutely none of the cosmology changes described in the final pages of Die Vecna Die are those that actually occured between 2e and 3e, not a single one of them. None of the events in the module have been carried over as canon in either Planescape, or Greyhawk (which is all WotC is really handling, having sold RL), and outside of Vecna being back in Greyhawk and no longer a demigod, there's literally -nothing- from the module that has been carried over. They didn't even mention the event in the Planar Handbook's information on Sigil, and considering the destruction that occured in DVD, it'd be impossible to simply omit any reference. Unless it was being retconned or utterly ignored as having ever happened, which it seems to have been. For what it's worth, Planewalker's take on the module, in chapter 6 of our releases, takes a sort of middle ground compromise that has the events taking place, but ignores the ooc reasoning given some of them (which trashed certain elements of Planescape). We try to avoid ignoring it completely, but going along with the theme of the setting: ie it happened, but it may have been intentionally allowed to happen for reasons we simply don't have the scope of time to understand. While Sigil may have never been in actual danger, Vecna's rise in power may have set into motion events that may in eons or longer stop something worse from happening. Who knows but the Bladed Queen, and She isn't talking certainly. There's plenty of IC speculation in our take on it. [/QUOTE]
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