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<blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 8669672" data-attributes="member: 83242">CounterspellThe important difference is this stipulation to the reaction: &quot;...you take when you see a creature within 60 feet of you casting a spell.&quot;This means you have to be able to identify that a person is casting a spell to use this reaction. You have to see the act of casting a spell.Dead CounterspellThis is also a reaction, but Vecna doesn't need to see that the target is casting a spell. He needs to see the target and it needs to be casting (otherwise there is nothing to counterpell), but he doesn't need to see them casting.&quot;Vecna utters a dread word to interrupt a creature he can see that is casting a spell.&quot;Venca sees it and it is casting a spell. He doesn't have to see the act of casting.It is also relevant that Venca cannot upcast this because he doesn't need to see the spellcasting and therefore could not determine the level of the spell to up-cast is dread counterspell. But really this is an artifact in the statblock change.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dave2008, post: 8669672, member: 83242"] [U]Counterspell[/U] The important difference is this stipulation to the reaction: "[I]...you take when [B]you[/B] [B]see a creature within 60 feet of you casting a spell[/B].[/I]" This means you have to be able to identify that a person is casting a spell to use this reaction. You have to see the act of casting a spell. [U]Dead Counterspell[/U] This is also a reaction, but Vecna doesn't need to see that the target is casting a spell. He needs to see the target and it needs to be casting (otherwise there is nothing to counterpell), but he doesn't need to see them casting. "[I]Vecna utters a dread word t[B]o interrupt a creature he can see[/B] that is casting a spell.[/I]" Venca sees it and it is casting a spell. He doesn't have to see the act of casting. It is also relevant that Venca cannot upcast this because he doesn't need to see the spellcasting and therefore could not determine the level of the spell to up-cast is dread counterspell. But really this is an artifact in the statblock change. [/QUOTE]

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