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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 8670084" data-attributes="member: 6779196">Why would they cast shield even if they could perceive the attack, when it can’t even do damage to them?So, what you’re saying is, even if the wording of a reaction ability indicates that the conditions to use it have been met, it might still not make sense for them to use it if they aren’t aware the conditions are met. I agree, which is exactly why I’m not convinced Vecna can use Dread Counterspell on a spell he isn’t aware is being cast.If that was the case, why wouldn’t you be able to use counterspell the same way?Well because it takes more than a nanosecond to say a word, and Dread Counterspell involves uttering a Dread word.No one has answered how Vecna is supposed to say a word in response to a spell he doesn’t know is being cast. So far the best explanation offered has been “he does know the spell is being cast, even if it doesn’t have any components,” and in conjunction with the passage about him being able to tell what spell is being cast just by looking at the caster, this is almost convincing to me. But I’m still not sold. If someone wants to convince me, this is the angle to go for. I have considered the difference in wording from counterspell and don’t find it a compelling argument. I don’t care whether an interpretation would make Vecna more powerful. But if you can persuade me that the intent is for him to be aware whenever a creature he can see casts a spell, even if the spell has no visible components? That would sell me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 8670084, member: 6779196"] Why would they cast shield even if they could perceive the attack, when it can’t even do damage to them? So, what you’re saying is, even if the wording of a reaction ability indicates that the conditions to use it have been met, it might still not make sense for them to use it if they aren’t aware the conditions are met. I agree, which is exactly why I’m not convinced Vecna can use Dread Counterspell on a spell he isn’t aware is being cast. If that was the case, why wouldn’t you be able to use counterspell the same way? Well because it takes more than a nanosecond to say a word, and Dread Counterspell involves uttering a Dread word. No one has answered how Vecna is supposed to say a word in response to a spell he doesn’t know is being cast. So far the best explanation offered has been “he [I]does[/I] know the spell is being cast, even if it doesn’t have any components,” and in conjunction with the passage about him being able to tell what spell is being cast just by looking at the caster, this is [I]almost[/I] convincing to me. But I’m still not sold. If someone wants to convince me, this is the angle to go for. I have considered the difference in wording from counterspell and don’t find it a compelling argument. I don’t care whether an interpretation would make Vecna more powerful. But if you can persuade me that the intent is for him to be aware whenever a creature he can see casts a spell, even if the spell has no visible components? That would sell me. [/QUOTE]

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