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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Andrew Moreton" data-source="post: 7394656" data-attributes="member: 6920268">Again vital strike is a dreadful feat it is passable for  a fighter with feats to burn and a two handed weapon and good for a druid who plans to fight as a hippo or Tyranosaur for everyone else it is rubbishOn a single standard action attack you get 1 extra d4 or d6, when for a rogue to do damage they want to get as many hits as possible and add sneak attack to each (remember bonus damage and dice are not mutiplied on crits unless you are a mythic trickster), with TWF when making a full attack which is something you can manage after a suprise round or by flanking (flanking is the way to get sneak attacks) you get either 1 or 2 extra attacks , as well as your basic iterative attacks for a max with haste and greater TWF  of 9 attacks even if only 2 of them hit that beats vital strike dead on its feat.Wild shaped vital striking size boosted druid goes from 4d8 to 32d8 with greater vital strike and that is about the only time it is worth it.You go from d4+N + 8d6 to 4d4+n +8d6 avearge 30.5 to average 38 assuming an 11 or less to hit (below is the same number but with TWF penalty you average 19 damageWith the haste sneak attack assuming 13 or less with the primary attack you get 4 hits at 13 , 2 at 18 , and 4 at 20 with this you average 80.5  you will be better full attacking rather than vital striking normally so you only vital strike after a move action into a sneak attack which is probably less common that a full attack so the maths says TWF for rogues. Improving the +N is hard for you you are going to get dex to damage and weapon mod so a max at 20th level of +17. Power attack helps with that but your strength is to low and the dex  equivlant of piranaha strike is of course not available to you.I won't be answering any questions after tuesday due to a combination of holiday and surgery so finalise your design before then <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></blockquote>

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