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<blockquote data-quote="Journeymanmage" data-source="post: 5053659" data-attributes="member: 63814"><p>The lack of a rule or comment is now a specific? </p><p></p><p>In the OP, Vengeful Parry has a specific requirement that overrides the general rule. </p><p>- General rule: Slide 2 (move 0, 1, 2) (applies unless specific overrides)</p><p>- Specific override: Must end adjacent (explicitly stated requirement)</p><p></p><p>If I understand your comment above, then a power such as Twin Strike only does 1[W] damage. Period.</p><p></p><p>Nowhere in Twin Strike does it say, "don't add additional modifiers".</p><p>Damage for Twin Strike is: 1[W] + additional modifiers ... </p><p>Because:</p><p></p><p>General rule: </p><p>- Roll the damage indicated in the powers description.</p><p>- Add the ability modifier specified in the powers description.</p><p>- Additional bonuses: racial/feat bonus, enhancement bonus (weapon or an implement), item/power/unspecified bonus.</p><p></p><p>Twin Strike: </p><p> - Damage indicated: 1[W]</p><p> - Add ability modifier specified in the powers description. (no modifier listed)</p><p> - Additional bonuses</p><p></p><p>Could you point out where in the Twin Strike power the rule is stated explicitly to only use [W] and Not to add "additional bonuses? The General rule takes into account "additional bonus(es)" and does not require a specific statement in the power to add them. It would take a specific statement not to add them. </p><p></p><p>I'm not seeing the "'Specific' (no damage bonus is shown in the power)" in writing: </p><p></p><p>General: - Additional bonuses: racial/feat bonus, enhancement bonus (weapon or an implement), item/power/unspecified bonus</p><p></p><p>As to Vengeful Parry:</p><p>General: Slide 0, 1, 2</p><p>Specific: End Adjacent</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Journeymanmage, post: 5053659, member: 63814"] The lack of a rule or comment is now a specific? In the OP, Vengeful Parry has a specific requirement that overrides the general rule. - General rule: Slide 2 (move 0, 1, 2) (applies unless specific overrides) - Specific override: Must end adjacent (explicitly stated requirement) If I understand your comment above, then a power such as Twin Strike only does 1[W] damage. Period. Nowhere in Twin Strike does it say, "don't add additional modifiers". Damage for Twin Strike is: 1[W] + additional modifiers ... Because: General rule: - Roll the damage indicated in the powers description. - Add the ability modifier specified in the powers description. - Additional bonuses: racial/feat bonus, enhancement bonus (weapon or an implement), item/power/unspecified bonus. Twin Strike: - Damage indicated: 1[W] - Add ability modifier specified in the powers description. (no modifier listed) - Additional bonuses Could you point out where in the Twin Strike power the rule is stated explicitly to only use [W] and Not to add "additional bonuses? The General rule takes into account "additional bonus(es)" and does not require a specific statement in the power to add them. It would take a specific statement not to add them. I'm not seeing the "'Specific' (no damage bonus is shown in the power)" in writing: General: - Additional bonuses: racial/feat bonus, enhancement bonus (weapon or an implement), item/power/unspecified bonus As to Vengeful Parry: General: Slide 0, 1, 2 Specific: End Adjacent [/QUOTE]
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