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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CAFargo" data-source="post: 5029843" data-attributes="member: 86456">Dire animals are not just larger: they tend to have red eyes, and always have bone-like plate on them. They are also a lot more violent, and have more muscle mass/size to match. Monstrous vermin, on the other hand, tend not to have these physical abnormalities.Your right...still, these monsters can also challenge a party to some degree by themselves, and a normal wasp cannot.Maybe in another campaign, but in mine they work in the opposite process of dire animals and dinosaurs. While dinosaurs and dire animals are archaic beasts who are slowly dying out (in most cases), giant insects are actually a new genetic offspring (can magical radiation cause genetic changes?)You guys are still missing the point. Vermin may be animals, but they don't FEEL like animals.For an answer to the squid problem, squids and segmented worms grew out of 2 different evolutionary tracks, one having developed segmentation, the other not (a scientific definition of vermin may include the phyla platyhelminthis, nematoda, rotifera, annelida, anthropoda, and most small mollusca).<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></blockquote>