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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Steinhauser" data-source="post: 5029918" data-attributes="member: 86705">None of the monstrous vermin I've seen in artwork or media look exactly like smaller vermin either. They always have exaggerated claws, giant mandibles, rougher-textured exoskeletons. Though none of this is relevent to vermin's deserved status as animals.You mean a 1/8th level party? There is nothing threatening about these animals. A rat does 1 damage with a bite just like a hornet might do with a sting. And again, there's nothing relevant about it.Sure, maybe in your very specific campaign, vermin may have something that makes them distinct from other animals. My campaign might have something that makes bears distinct from all other animals. In that case I would change the bears' type to match the campaign, but not as a general rule.And my point is that thinking is completely subjective. Why should some spells not affect some critters when they're made of the same stuff - just because those critters FEEL different? (Besides balance reasons, which isn't an issue here.)Keep in mind fish (chordates) evolved from segmented worms."Most small mollusca." When does a small mollusc vermin (gastropod) become a small mollusc animal (cephalopod)?</blockquote>