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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5031078" data-attributes="member: 4937">The allegiance of all animals is ultimately to the Griffin paragon Alcegraff, whereas the leige lord of vermin is the abomination Payaninthar.&nbsp; The spiritual differences cannot be more striking.&nbsp; Alcegraff gaurds the wound in the Great World Ash trees side along with the Solar Ariel.&nbsp; Payaninthar resides in tartarus.&nbsp; It's a simple matter of performing Ansel's Biomancy of Auras to determine them apart, and even a novice barely trained in the art of scrying could tell such distinct auras from the other.I have no idea what all this other talk is about.&nbsp; 'Common ancestor'?&nbsp; Celapods and mollusks only common ancestor is the Great World Ash itself, as both were created in the fourth moment of creation.&nbsp; 'Evolution'?&nbsp; Cephlapods and mollusks exist in the forms they have from the Tree of Life.&nbsp; Nothing has tampered with them, and if they had employed biomancy the resultant creature would not be either animal or vermin, but an aberration.&nbsp; And I have no idea where this talk of 'humans are animals' come from.&nbsp; They are most certainly not.&nbsp; Animals were procreated from the world ash in the fourth moment of creation, possibly by the direct will of the Allfadur.&nbsp; Humans are one of the Seven Free peoples created aeons latter by the Gods after the First Great Truce.&nbsp; They aren't even the same order of being.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 5031078, member: 4937"] The allegiance of all animals is ultimately to the Griffin paragon Alcegraff, whereas the leige lord of vermin is the abomination Payaninthar. The spiritual differences cannot be more striking. Alcegraff gaurds the wound in the Great World Ash trees side along with the Solar Ariel. Payaninthar resides in tartarus. It's a simple matter of performing Ansel's Biomancy of Auras to determine them apart, and even a novice barely trained in the art of scrying could tell such distinct auras from the other. I have no idea what all this other talk is about. 'Common ancestor'? Celapods and mollusks only common ancestor is the Great World Ash itself, as both were created in the fourth moment of creation. 'Evolution'? Cephlapods and mollusks exist in the forms they have from the Tree of Life. Nothing has tampered with them, and if they had employed biomancy the resultant creature would not be either animal or vermin, but an aberration. And I have no idea where this talk of 'humans are animals' come from. They are most certainly not. Animals were procreated from the world ash in the fourth moment of creation, possibly by the direct will of the Allfadur. Humans are one of the Seven Free peoples created aeons latter by the Gods after the First Great Truce. They aren't even the same order of being. [/QUOTE]

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