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<blockquote data-quote="BrooklynKnight" data-source="post: 2265124" data-attributes="member: 4490"><p>Very good insight there, however, Veronica Mars just isint a 10pm show.</p><p></p><p>You're forgetting that the 10pm shows are usually targetted to the more adult demographic. </p><p></p><p>"Prime Time" is considered 7pm - 11pm with the primary prime time at 8 and 9pm. </p><p></p><p>I get the "feeling" that the majority of the crowd that watches Veronica, drops off after 10pm. Either forced off TV by parents, or to go online before bed, or whatever else. Granted, teens typically do what they want, and watch anyway, but we need to remember that the Neilsons doesnt account for this, thus anyone from that age group really watching at 10pm wouldnt be accounted for.</p><p></p><p>8 and 9pm are the best times for Veronica Mars.</p><p></p><p>WB has some decent dramas too. One Tree Hill and Everwood. I'd not recommend putting VM against them because UPN and WB DO compete for the same AGE demographic, if not the same racial one.</p><p></p><p>Frankly, I feel VM would do better on CBS or WB. Viacom owns UPN and CBS, and I KNOW there is some sort of relationship at the corp level between Viacom, Disney and Fox (Due to some shared programming that jumped between Fox, ABC, and WB a few years ago, before the shows were syndicated, but those were cartoons.)</p><p></p><p>Anywho, VM would do much better on CBS or WB. I can definatly see VM trailing Everwood. You've got a Teen Family Melodrama (ala WB's preferred format, the "Dawson Creek Format" as i call it), followed by a Teen Mystery Drama.</p><p></p><p>With Veronica staying on UPN for the next season, and possibly 2 seasons, the best move would be to keep it on Tuesdays, and put it at 8pm, as a lead-in for Americas Top Model. Personally, I expect the "true" ratings of Veronica Mars to have already topped Top Model, but the Neilsons faulty system takes too long to catch up, and doesnt report things accuratly anyway. (have I mentioned my grudge against the current rating system before? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-p" title="Stick out tongue :-p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":-p" />)</p><p></p><p>As for my previous comments, What i said DOES make sense if you consider how Enterprise was treated at UPN. Just because UPN spent money to advertise VM for its season doesnt mean the guy in charge loves the show. Unfortunatly, personal issues OFTEN get mixed up in the upper levels of Broadcast Management. A General Manager or Program Manager with a grudge against a Producer or Sales Manager or against the show in general could affect his better judgement. And UPN is like a limp foot of Viacom/Paramount really. The companies dont pay much attention to it. If they did it would be a great network, but its not. Thus the man in charge plays around to get his way. And we (and the company at large) gets screwed.</p><p></p><p>Alternativly VM should just be placed up against any of the reality shows, INSTEAD of Americas Top Model. Although the show has been renewed it has ONLY been renewed because of its star Tyra Banks, who's apparently got some pull. According to one of my professors, who's got some friends at UPN, that show is on its last legs as its loosing viewers fast.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BrooklynKnight, post: 2265124, member: 4490"] Very good insight there, however, Veronica Mars just isint a 10pm show. You're forgetting that the 10pm shows are usually targetted to the more adult demographic. "Prime Time" is considered 7pm - 11pm with the primary prime time at 8 and 9pm. I get the "feeling" that the majority of the crowd that watches Veronica, drops off after 10pm. Either forced off TV by parents, or to go online before bed, or whatever else. Granted, teens typically do what they want, and watch anyway, but we need to remember that the Neilsons doesnt account for this, thus anyone from that age group really watching at 10pm wouldnt be accounted for. 8 and 9pm are the best times for Veronica Mars. WB has some decent dramas too. One Tree Hill and Everwood. I'd not recommend putting VM against them because UPN and WB DO compete for the same AGE demographic, if not the same racial one. Frankly, I feel VM would do better on CBS or WB. Viacom owns UPN and CBS, and I KNOW there is some sort of relationship at the corp level between Viacom, Disney and Fox (Due to some shared programming that jumped between Fox, ABC, and WB a few years ago, before the shows were syndicated, but those were cartoons.) Anywho, VM would do much better on CBS or WB. I can definatly see VM trailing Everwood. You've got a Teen Family Melodrama (ala WB's preferred format, the "Dawson Creek Format" as i call it), followed by a Teen Mystery Drama. With Veronica staying on UPN for the next season, and possibly 2 seasons, the best move would be to keep it on Tuesdays, and put it at 8pm, as a lead-in for Americas Top Model. Personally, I expect the "true" ratings of Veronica Mars to have already topped Top Model, but the Neilsons faulty system takes too long to catch up, and doesnt report things accuratly anyway. (have I mentioned my grudge against the current rating system before? :-p) As for my previous comments, What i said DOES make sense if you consider how Enterprise was treated at UPN. Just because UPN spent money to advertise VM for its season doesnt mean the guy in charge loves the show. Unfortunatly, personal issues OFTEN get mixed up in the upper levels of Broadcast Management. A General Manager or Program Manager with a grudge against a Producer or Sales Manager or against the show in general could affect his better judgement. And UPN is like a limp foot of Viacom/Paramount really. The companies dont pay much attention to it. If they did it would be a great network, but its not. Thus the man in charge plays around to get his way. And we (and the company at large) gets screwed. Alternativly VM should just be placed up against any of the reality shows, INSTEAD of Americas Top Model. Although the show has been renewed it has ONLY been renewed because of its star Tyra Banks, who's apparently got some pull. According to one of my professors, who's got some friends at UPN, that show is on its last legs as its loosing viewers fast. [/QUOTE]
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