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<blockquote data-quote="daemonslye" data-source="post: 447844" data-attributes="member: 6309">Seems to me the question is not so much about verticalreach as ruling around whether creatures on the groundare ruled to &quot;fill their square/cube&quot; as it were.In your example, I would rule that unless the demondid not prepare a readied action, you would get by withan AOO (this might be a grapple though).If the demon prepared an action (in response to you attempting to flee just that way), then he would getan action in addition to the AOO (say another grappleattempt).&nbsp; If the demon wins, it is starting to look likehalfing-snacks tonight (unless you have a high escape artist score or close q. fighting).A question - Does your halfing have a reasonable tumble skill modifier?&nbsp; I allow flying creatures to tumble.&nbsp; Thiswould allow you to move through the creatures squarewithout an AOO (tho readied actions will not be affected).The meat of the question seems to lie in:&nbsp; &quot;If a humanoidshaped creature (5x5/10) is seven feet tall, would they &quot;block&quot;the upper five feet of a ten foot area? Assuming a creatureis jumping, flying or otherwise attempting to cross that area.&quot;Good question - If it came up while I was DM'ing, I wouldlikely rule that, further assuming you were small or medium, you could move through that space.&nbsp; A large creature could not.Now - what if the demon is a &quot;big sucker&quot; and is hunched intoa small space (5'wx10'h)?&nbsp; Well, in this case, in addition tohis penalties to attack and AC, your little halfling will needsome good tumble skills or a borer to get through.Just my opinion though.&nbsp; Your DM will have the final say.~D</blockquote>

[QUOTE="daemonslye, post: 447844, member: 6309"] Seems to me the question is not so much about vertical reach as ruling around whether creatures on the ground are ruled to "fill their square/cube" as it were. In your example, I would rule that unless the demon did not prepare a readied action, you would get by with an AOO (this might be a grapple though). If the demon prepared an action (in response to you attempting to flee just that way), then he would get an action in addition to the AOO (say another grapple attempt). If the demon wins, it is starting to look like halfing-snacks tonight (unless you have a high escape artist score or close q. fighting). A question - Does your halfing have a reasonable tumble skill modifier? I allow flying creatures to tumble. This would allow you to move through the creatures square without an AOO (tho readied actions will not be affected). The meat of the question seems to lie in: "If a humanoid shaped creature (5x5/10) is seven feet tall, would they "block" the upper five feet of a ten foot area? Assuming a creature is jumping, flying or otherwise attempting to cross that area." Good question - If it came up while I was DM'ing, I would likely rule that, further assuming you were small or medium, you could move through that space. A large creature could not. Now - what if the demon is a "big sucker" and is hunched into a small space (5'wx10'h)? Well, in this case, in addition to his penalties to attack and AC, your little halfling will need some good tumble skills or a borer to get through. Just my opinion though. Your DM will have the final say. ~D [/QUOTE]

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