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<blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 5814560" data-attributes="member: 463">(1) In a CAS game like 4e you can have potentially overwhelming encounter groups that need to be avoided and/or attrited.&nbsp; I agree that works fine.&nbsp; In my Southlands game the PCs have been/are facing orc and human/undead armies numbering several hundred, the PCs use strategy &amp; avoidance to be able to engage the enemy on reasonable terms, leading to a CAS-encounter at the point of contact.(2) But what you can't do effectively in 4e IME is the trivial or trivialised encounter.&nbsp; I remember GMing Forge of Fury 4e conversion for you, there's a trivial encounter with a lone ooze, I remember you being unhappy because it was not a significant threat in 4e, but still took quite a long time to kill - you suggested it should have been a minion.&nbsp; I think maybe treating it as a trap could have worked, but I'm unsure about the mechanics.&nbsp; Anyway, trivial encounters are the bread and butter of CAW, and in a CAS system they just don't work.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="S'mon, post: 5814560, member: 463"] (1) In a CAS game like 4e you can have [B]potentially overwhelming[/B] encounter groups that need to be avoided and/or attrited. I agree that works fine. In my Southlands game the PCs have been/are facing orc and human/undead armies numbering several hundred, the PCs use strategy & avoidance to be able to engage the enemy on reasonable terms, leading to a CAS-encounter at the point of contact. (2) But what you can't do effectively in 4e IME is the [B]trivial or trivialised [/B]encounter. I remember GMing Forge of Fury 4e conversion for you, there's a trivial encounter with a lone ooze, I remember you being unhappy because it was not a significant threat in 4e, but still took quite a long time to kill - you suggested it should have been a minion. I think maybe treating it as a trap could have worked, but I'm unsure about the mechanics. Anyway, trivial encounters are the bread and butter of CAW, and in a CAS system they just don't work. [/QUOTE]

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