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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BlackJaw" data-source="post: 290145" data-attributes="member: 888">Seperating vessel rules and vehicle rules:A flying monster (or a character with proper spells or magic items) is considered a vessel and a pilot (he his flying himself around after all).  This is a direct connetino between vessel and pilot and it generaly easier to fly and otherwise operate in the air.A flying vehicle is another matter.  The pilot is a person using a device to fly.  This more dificult to do and a number of special rules apply to such vessels.The following bits of rules only apply to vehicles:Firing Arcs: "Also, all of a vessel’s weapons are assigned a facing.  They point forward, left, right, or reverse.  These are called firing arcs.  A vessel weapon can only attack targets within its firing arc."  Only vehicles have mounted weapons with spicific firing arcs.No Double Moves:  Only vehicles are restricted from moving twice.  This is because a vehicle does not require extra effort to move faster... the vehicle is a device that moves at a set speed, generaly faster then most creatures.  If the pilot takes extra effort he only gains a second stunt and more total turning.Vessel Weapons:  This should be Vehicle weapons now.  They only apply to vehicle weapons.Damage & Destruction: Most of these rules only apply to vehicles.  The imporant rule for creatuers is that you remain airborn as long as you have 1 hitpoint.Landing and Take off Stunts: I'm not sure landing and take off for creatuers is good as written.Attacking Vessel Weapons and Defenses:  These "vehicle" weapons and defences only apply to vehicle combat (although a dragon could attack a vessel weapon, it doesn't have any and so these rules go in vheicle sections.One handing Piloting: only applys if you are at the controls of a vehicle.Guided Weapons: only works for vehicles weapons like missle luanchers.Disarm: the rule againts disarming is only with or againts vehicle weapons.  (you can't use a tubro lazer to shot a knife out of antoehr person's hands, and you can't use one to "disarm" an x-wing of it's turbo lazer.)</blockquote>

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