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<blockquote data-quote="Terraism" data-source="post: 1488791" data-attributes="member: 278">Ok, I'm a Warcraft fan, though I haven't gotten around to picking up the campaign book.&nbsp; And I really like your prestige class, but this... [shakes head.]&nbsp; Assuming the character goes right to it, it's possible for a 12th level character to be a 5th level Blood Mage.&nbsp; He's an 11th level caster, with a number of neat abilities (but not really overpowered - the extra level of casting he lost is fairly replaced by a handful of bonus spells, no problem.)&nbsp; But a Pheonix is incredibly powerful.&nbsp; In five rounds, using it to a &quot;generic best use&quot; fashion, the Blood Mage can get out of it:&nbsp; - All enemies within 30 feet slowed (Will DC 22) for a round&nbsp; - Heal&nbsp; - Fire Seeds (Holly berries) (Maximized; 28 damage to 8 5-foot radius circles.&nbsp; Drop 'em all on one fellow and whisper &quot;boom.&quot; 224 damage, to one poor bloke.)&nbsp; - Incendiary Cloud (Maximized)&nbsp; - Reincarnate&nbsp; - And a possible 40d6 half-divine Fireball (guaranteed if you have it blow up Fire Seeds on the last turn.)&nbsp;For a 12th level character to have access to that firepower, in addition to all the abilities of your average 11th level caster?&nbsp; Ouch.&nbsp; I'm tempted to suggest that you expand the class up to a 10-level class - at level 17, that'd be far more reasonable, but still a very nice &quot;ultimate ability.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Terraism, post: 1488791, member: 278"] Ok, I'm a Warcraft fan, though I haven't gotten around to picking up the campaign book. And I really like your prestige class, but this... [shakes head.] Assuming the character goes right to it, it's possible for a 12th level character to be a 5th level Blood Mage. He's an 11th level caster, with a number of neat abilities (but not really overpowered - the extra level of casting he lost is fairly replaced by a handful of bonus spells, no problem.) But a Pheonix is [i]incredibly[/i] powerful. In five rounds, using it to a "generic best use" fashion, the Blood Mage can get out of it: - All enemies within 30 feet slowed (Will DC 22) for a round - [i]Heal[/i] - [i]Fire Seeds (Holly berries) [/i](Maximized; 28 damage to 8 5-foot radius circles. Drop 'em all on one fellow and whisper "boom." 224 damage, to one poor bloke.) - [i]Incendiary Cloud [/i](Maximized) - [i]Reincarnate[/i] - And a possible 40d6 half-divine [i]Fireball[/i] (guaranteed if you have it blow up Fire Seeds on the last turn.) For a 12th level character to have access to that firepower, in addition to all the abilities of your average 11th level caster? Ouch. I'm tempted to suggest that you expand the class up to a 10-level class - at level 17, that'd be far more reasonable, but still a very nice "ultimate ability." [/QUOTE]

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