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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dias Ex Machina" data-source="post: 5162391" data-attributes="member: 58907">Deny it or not, Penny Arcade has acquired substantial weight through the internet.  This same magical thread which connects us is also responsible for the success of Steven Colbert, whose internet presence is seemingly larger than his televised one.  I count myself a fan of all of them (Colbert, PA, and Ebert).  With Ebert and Colbert, they have shifted attention to the internet because their growing fan base is there.  For Ebert, it has become his primary outlet.  I respect Jerry Holkins views on many issues and have agreed with many of them (including his view that games can be art).  In his many tirades, I have sided with him.  However, in attacking Roger so vehemently, he has muffled his valid argument as no more coherent as feces being thrown from the hand of a monkey.  In such a vulgar personal attack, Jerry falls under threat as being dismissed from the debate on grounds of not being civil.  Roger Ebert is not Jack Thompson.  Roger is not attacking video games or condemning their morality or violence.  Roger is also articulate and intelligent, with awards webcomics would dream about owning (and none currently do).  There was an opportunity for a real dialogue and it has been squandered.  On a side point, not wanting to sound patronizing, but this thread has been really been intelligently handled.  No feces throwing here.  Good on all of you.  I read the Scott McCloud blog and found it really enlightening.</blockquote>

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