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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SHARK" data-source="post: 4599419" data-attributes="member: 1131">Greetings!Well, Kishin, such being *condescending* was certainly not my intention. It is simply my observation with both the vast majority of people here and elsewhere that I have discussed this with.In both contexts, "Nah, John. I don't care for 4E. It seems too video-gamey*Or--"Yeah, John. 4E rocks, dude. It feels a bit video-gamey, too!"In both such cases, the large majority of people easily surmised what the people were talking about. Occasionally, a brief clarification was needed, but not often. Then, recently, *here*--it's like all of a sudden, it's an entirely foreign concept, so prepostrously alien that some people can't imagine how the two could be compared, and saying that 4E is *video-gamey* is imprecise, and incomprehensible.Thus, my honest *incomprehension* concerning some people's inability to comprehend how lots of other people--in my experience--could relate the two kinds of games apparently with ease, and very little friction or misunderstanding about what the person speaking meant--either in favor or in critique--of 4E as being or feeling *video-gamey*All of which just speaks to my experience, and my bewilderment at some people's apoplexy over me using the comparison to explain what some of the critics have felt. *shrugs* I don't understand why several people get all twisted because many other people seeing connections and influences between 4E and video-games/mmo's.Personally--I really *love* 3.5 D&D. I've been playing it for years and years, and have spent lots of money on it. I was originally quite hostile to the announcement of 4E. Since then, I have gradually become cautiously enthusiastic about playing/DMing with 4E.*I* can see quite clearly, in my view, how 4E resembles video-games/mmo's. *I* can clearly see how some negative aspects/mechanics/elements in 4E are influenced by video-games.*I* can also see how some different positive elements--and even some of the same *negative* ones--also have positive and strong attributes that make 4E excellent--and they have been influenced by video-games.Hopefully, that clarifies some things.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" />Semper Fidelis,SHARK</blockquote>

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