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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thia Halmades" data-source="post: 2662831" data-attributes="member: 35863">No argument, wuyanei, you're absolutely right, and there's a few threads floating around where I say exactly that.However (who didn't see that coming?)However, I'd like to point out that the BoVD, which I drew inspiration from for that, is really clear on what their Feats and abilities are like; we're talking about the ugly, nasty, dirty evil.  We're talking more about an absolute evil than a relative evil.  This conversation can go on eternally, trading examples ad infinitum, so I'll keep myself in some measure of check.  Simply:- I wanted to offer a variant that had a cost for a return, while maintaining the flavor of evil.  My version could apply to either NE or CE (but not LE).- Your point, that an LE would do it differently, is well taken.  I submit, however, that evil people as a rule prefer to be paid.  I will agree, though, that if you're running a more sublime reality (as I do) then your evil NPCs can most certainly be evil for the sake of promoting their/their God's objectives, but the loyalty of these people is tenuous at best, by definition.- Hence, you have to have a return for the Feat.  They have to receive something that effectively rewards them for being evil, even if that reward is ultimately bad for them (which, let's be frank, having 8 nipples and demons sucking on you all night is pretty freaking bad, but you have a demon army at your disposal.  Evil is twisted like that).So that was what I was trying to invoke.  Argument acknowledged & Point Yielded (well done), explanation included for clarification of exactly what I was doing & why.</blockquote>

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