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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 9200231" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>No. I'm pointing out that whatever you are intending by "agency", there is no general norm in RPG design that accepts it as a constraint.</p><p></p><p>In AD&D striking to subdue has to be declared in advance:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">Upon announcement of intent to <em>strike to subdue</em> . . . (Monster Manual, p 30)</p><p></p><p>The DMG rules refer back to the MM, and also say "Such attacks use the flat, butt, haft, pommel, or otherwise non-lethal parts of the weapons concerned" (p 67). You can't decide after the event whether or not you are using the fat, butt, haft or pommel of your weapon!</p><p></p><p>Nonsense. I've already quoted where the rulebook expressly stats the rules, no negotiation or violation required: if you are threatening with intent to follow through, you are Going Aggro; if you are threatening with no intent to follow through, you are Manipulating. It's not obscure - it's expressly addressed front-and-centre int </p><p></p><p>The difference between the two is that one uses Hard and the other Hot; and that the resolution framework is different.</p><p></p><p>I don't know what you mean by "my character is supposed to Go Aggro". Either you are using force to get your way, or you are pretending to use force to get your way. If the former, you're Going Aggro. If the latter, you're Manipulating.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 9200231, member: 42582"] No. I'm pointing out that whatever you are intending by "agency", there is no general norm in RPG design that accepts it as a constraint. In AD&D striking to subdue has to be declared in advance: [indent]Upon announcement of intent to [I]strike to subdue[/I] . . . (Monster Manual, p 30)[/indent] The DMG rules refer back to the MM, and also say "Such attacks use the flat, butt, haft, pommel, or otherwise non-lethal parts of the weapons concerned" (p 67). You can't decide after the event whether or not you are using the fat, butt, haft or pommel of your weapon! Nonsense. I've already quoted where the rulebook expressly stats the rules, no negotiation or violation required: if you are threatening with intent to follow through, you are Going Aggro; if you are threatening with no intent to follow through, you are Manipulating. It's not obscure - it's expressly addressed front-and-centre int The difference between the two is that one uses Hard and the other Hot; and that the resolution framework is different. I don't know what you mean by "my character is supposed to Go Aggro". Either you are using force to get your way, or you are pretending to use force to get your way. If the former, you're Going Aggro. If the latter, you're Manipulating. [/QUOTE]
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