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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Emberashh" data-source="post: 9201272" data-attributes="member: 7040941">Move design from my perspective contradicts that, however. And I could wrong but I can't help but think Baker at some point stated that you could just call out Moves; I've seen enough random quotes pulled out of the aether from him (I read lots of PBTA debates, and people always have quotes of his they can pull from the most obscure places) that I can't help but think that was one of them. But even if he hasnt, Go Aggro, and other Moves, in assuming certain Triggers can absolutely be used in a way that equates to the player making the Triggers happen. Rather than focus on trying to improv your way into the trigger, just cede the lead up and focus on the outcome you wanted. Go Aggro has specific possible outcomes, and say you want one of them. Go Aggro, roll for it, and move on. Simple and easy, and no need to get wrapped up in a meta discussion. It still, as said, runs into issues integrating with the improv game. Because the triggers could happen in other contexts, Moves could be triggered unintentionally, and because the Outcomes are assumed, not all Moves are going to track with every desired outcome. Which, of course, is intentional as far as the outcomes go. They're supposed to ensure that certain narrative beats happen, as thats what makes the overall game evocative of whatever Genre its emulating. I know you aren't sold on the idea of this being genre emulation, and Id say to that concern that it kind of is an implicit thing, as the emulation is rooted in the Outcomes and not just the theme of the Move, which I'd argue is due to a desire to make the game appear closer to what RPG fans were used to. Go Aggro for example feels and is themed closer to a task, but its outcomes are narrative beats. Thats why it prescribes how the character(s) act in response to the roll, and not the specific effects of whatever the actual task is. Ie, Go Aggro doesn't resolve if you could fire a gun into someones temple accurately, or if your fists were doing enough damage, or what have you, it resolves a given scene and how the characters respond to it, in correlation to how similar scenes in the Genre are typically resolved. Every outcome of Go Aggro has examples found in every piece of post-apocalyptic media ever made, and by design it doesn't allow you to generate a new outcome. You either follow the prescribed narrative beats or you use something else. (Or violate the rules)</blockquote>

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