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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 9201327" data-attributes="member: 82106">I assume your reference is AW 1e, it is a bit more clearly spelled out in 2e. There's a whole page or so more beyond that breaking down the sorts of arrangements and emphasizing that you need leverage to make this move work, it isn't just 'diplomacy', you have to actually have something the other guy wants, or is afraid of, etc. Here I'd note this is a big difference from Go Aggro, you don't need ANY particular fictional position to trigger Go Aggro, you just say something that indicates you are trying to force someone to do/not do something by force, actively; where the force MAY not be carried through on if the goal is achieved (else just use In Battle). Just to expound a bit more, cause its me and I love to talk, DW also made things a bit more explicit. You can 'Parley' with someone, IF YOU HAVE LEVERAGE, otherwise its just chit chat. It is basically a version of Manipulate/Seduce. Because DW is less about violent interpersonal conflict than AW it lacks an exact equivalent to Go Aggro. You can Hack & Slash of course, but there's not really a move for resolving "this guy is strong enough that I can't manipulate him with a threat, but not too strong to potentially frighten." In that game, which deliberately emulates old-school D&D, you can talk, or Parley, or you can hack! Its a different game, different agenda, the tone is different, so similar but not identical move architecture. This is where all of VB's exposition of the PbtA architecture gets more than theoretical. Some designers have a good feel for what moves will produce that narrativist experience, some don't. Some PbtA games are solid narrativist designs, some bend more into Neo-Trad territory, or whatever. I think maybe [USER=177]@Umbran[/USER] 's objection to VB stems from this, you can read all the articles you want, he can't make you into a game designer with a good feel for game design. If he could you and I would be running kick starters, lol.</blockquote>

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