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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TaranTheWanderer" data-source="post: 8020308" data-attributes="member: 15882">Yup, I agree.  I didn't mean, 'It's beside the point 'knowing who is good and evil'.  Looking back, I'm not sure why I wrote, 'It's beside the point'.  I do remember trying to decide whether I should keep that sentence in there.I think I meant that it was beside the point of what the previous poster was trying to communicate.  He made a bad example and you jumped on it instead of understanding what he was trying to say.  I think that's what I'd intended.In any case, Orcs are tainted Elves, if I remember correctly, and you could argue that, if Gollum could be saved, maybe an orc could be too.  Then I could argue that the hobbit was born 'good' and then tainted while the Orcs were born 'evil' and so the Hobbit had a frame of reference and something come back to and then we could get into a discussion of Original Sin...but that would all be beside the point.  Because, I think, @[USER=19270]toucanbuzz[/USER] was trying to communicate that he doesn't want to think that hard about it when they are playing.  I mean, Gandolf kills lots of goblins.  So, while there is a sub-plot about redemption, there's also lots about just killing evil dudes.</blockquote>