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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Coroc" data-source="post: 8021756" data-attributes="member: 6895991">I did some four true ascensions (no save game cheating) which was a very tough challenge on its own, I needed 70000 to 120000 moves for each.How to do this w/o killing anything totally eludes me. You would have to be incredibly lucky and skillful and equipped with tons of teleportation.But wasn't it required to kill the wizard of Yendor to get the amulet? Or did you just find the amulet? I just cannot remember it was so long ago.</blockquote>