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<blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 142648" data-attributes="member: 114">You need to use skill RANK rather than skill MODIFIER because otherwise you would have people qualifying for prestige classes at very low levels, just because of good attributes. This is why they did it that way.Personally I wouldn't allow virtual feats to count towards the pre-reqs for a prestige class - and I wouldn't create any prestige classes that looked as if virtual feats could be used <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />A ranger can pick &quot;improved two weapon fighting&quot; because of his virtual feats, but if he wears heavy armour, he suddenly loses the use of that real feat because his virtual feats are negated. What would you do if he had 6 levels of a prestige class on the basis of his virtual feats and then he wore heavy armour - would you disallow all his prestige levels? hit points? BAB? It is just such a can of worms that I really don't think it is worth going there.Prestige classes are all supposed to be organisations or some such anyway, are they not? I certainly follow the suggestion that they are the arms of prestige organisations within my campaign world - and as such, the leaders of those groups grill potential candidates and would screen out any who didn't meet their exacting criteria.Cheers</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Plane Sailing, post: 142648, member: 114"] You need to use skill RANK rather than skill MODIFIER because otherwise you would have people qualifying for prestige classes at very low levels, just because of good attributes. This is why they did it that way. Personally I wouldn't allow virtual feats to count towards the pre-reqs for a prestige class - and I wouldn't create any prestige classes that looked as if virtual feats could be used :) A ranger can pick "improved two weapon fighting" because of his virtual feats, but if he wears heavy armour, he suddenly loses the use of that real feat because his virtual feats are negated. What would you do if he had 6 levels of a prestige class on the basis of his virtual feats and then he wore heavy armour - would you disallow all his prestige levels? hit points? BAB? It is just such a can of worms that I really don't think it is worth going there. Prestige classes are all supposed to be organisations or some such anyway, are they not? I certainly follow the suggestion that they are the arms of prestige organisations within my campaign world - and as such, the leaders of those groups grill potential candidates and would screen out any who didn't meet their exacting criteria. Cheers [/QUOTE]

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