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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Trainz" data-source="post: 1891771" data-attributes="member: 2122">Something came up tonight during the game. Me and the DM spent 30 minutes in the books trying to find the answer.What is the line of sight for a human during outdoors night ? What rulebook and what page ?We were fighting a giant troll (size huge), and it fled in the night. We spent a whole lot of time trying to find it (13 rounds) before we turned him into troll-kebab. So we ran after it, but after the first round, he was 120 feet away in the night, and that's when we started flipping the pages trying to find a clear answer on how to find him. We can't track.I was thinking "Come ON, I don't care if it's middle of the night, how hard is it to follow by sight a huge critter ?"... I'm pretty sure I could follow an elephant that fled from me by sight during night. And I'm not even 8th level. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Another thing: we were also trying to find it by sound, and I couldn't find the Listen DC for an immobile creature. Surely something as clumsy and big as a giant troll makes SOME noise... ?</blockquote>