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Message: <blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 5748005" data-attributes="member: 35909">Hmm, those might be better multipliers.  I should probably wait for someone who enjoys calculating hit % vs. typical AC for level to see how the VS feats I proposed compare to full attack.  I just figured, Greater VS comes in at level 16 or higher, before then with Improved the most damage you're getting before GVS comes online is +30 at level 15 or higher.  That's pretty darn good, but doesn't seem game breaking at all.  When you hit GVS, I admit the damage shoots up dramatically again.  But...that's such high level, I'm not sure it's so out of line.  High level feats SHOULD be powerful, just as level 8 and 9 spells are.Still, I would be willing to use 1.5 and 2x instead of 2 and 3x if people think it's more balanced.</blockquote>