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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nifelhein" data-source="post: 2209520" data-attributes="member: 14129">I am using a variant Vp&Wp system on my Midnight game, I implemented it on the middle of the last session (which lasted 10 hours) and we had two combats with it. Basically I have reworked the UA system because regenration made the creature immortal and I thought having nonlethal damage was the right way to go.I strongly advise having the Vp&Wp rules be used with armor as Dr and class defense to Ac, although I have made a different progression for Def that stacks with armor. I also revised the rogue core class based on Star Wars classes and PrCs. All in all i can say it comes out great, the group is 5th level.I can say it sure improves the deadliness of combat but also, it does not go that much into the direction, softening criticals can be one idea, although a rapier has a good threat range it does not go a long way against a good DR from armor, for example.I personally believe stacking effects and having them increase the threat range by 1 i okay too. Sure it is not a perfect fit for D&D< but I believe it comes up pretty well, and all the 4 players on my table agreed with how well they fared.You can check my house rules on <a href="http://www.againsttheshadow.org/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=2362" target="_blank">this thread</a> on <a href="http://www.againsttheshadow.org/index.php" target="_blank">AtS.org</a> Midnight fansite, there is a pdf for each one of them and some discussions on them. I have lowered the base daze Dc for taking Wp to 5 plus modifiers, by the way.Cheers,Nif.</blockquote>

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