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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Takhisis" data-source="post: 5181309" data-attributes="member: 89689">First of all, if you are using a Shugenja, are you playing standard 3.5 or oriental adventures? If the latter, are you playing using Rokugan extras? I ask because shugenjas, as is, have few options unless you use rokugan content, hence why I am asking. Shugenja can be an excellent class if you have the right content. Depending on what level you are, I would ask your DM if you could use spells from the third party publisher D20 Rokugan books. Those books offer Shugenjas so many options that with that content their spell list rivals the wizard/sorcerer list for sheer size.However, word of warning about using those spells, some of them are useless outside of the Rokugan setting. Particular spells which deal with Void Points will be completely useless for you, and the many spells which effect/deal with tainted creatures and the taint will be generally useless unless you face a lot of undead or your DM decides to make a BBEG who is a Tainted Scholar.As for PrC options for Shugenja, Void Disciple is generally a horrid option. While 9/10 caster level progression can be "ok" if you get good enough stuff, 5/10 CL progression is just completely horrid, even more so on a Shugenja who already learns spells slower then a wizard. Thus, almost any full CL progression divine class is better then Void Disciple. However, I know the flavor fits a Shugenja better then most divine advancing classes and you seam to be looking for flavor, which is why I again suggest the Oriental Adventures content from third parties. Not only is there more spells, but if I remember correctly, better PrCs for Shugenjas and other oriental classes. One PrC  I do know for a shugenja that actually fits the flavor and  is worth picking up if you have the third party stuff( and if you are evil) is the Maho-Tsukai. It's strictly an evil class, but I believe that when you take it you get to keep some, if not most of your shugenja spells and gain a whole new spell list that has some very nice and flavorful evil-themed spells. The only downside is by RAW, their list is heavily limited and small, however, again, with third party content, the list gets fattened up quit nicely and as a result the class becomes viable and still has great flavor.  The Maho Tsukai has spells levels 0-9 but when you take the class you "trade in" levels of Shugenja for levels of Maho which means if you where a Shugenja who could cast up to level 3 spells, you would be able to now cast Maho spells of up to level 3 rather then start out with only level 1 and 0 Maho spells. Just be warned using Maho magic means you will have to cut yourself/use you blood to fuel your spells so that may be a turnoff.The only issues I see with it not already mentioned is that entry requires you have a certain taint score(I forget which), but if you are at low enough levels you can still learn a Maho spell(Maho spells can be learned as "off element" spells by Shugenja) which gives you taint every time you cast it.If you don't have the third party oriental adventures books, I can PM you with info on how/wear to get them.However, if you can use thrid party content, Shugenja 20 in itself becomes a decent build with all the options they have spell wise. Your still more a divine sorcerer then anything else, but your list is now on par with a sorcerer which means you can be about even with a sorcerer 20.</blockquote>

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