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Voidrunner's codex - 'Always Prepared' Maneuver, is this a broken feature?
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<blockquote data-quote="lichmaster" data-source="post: 9729212" data-attributes="member: 6683330"><p>Regarding the use of this maneuver to get 2x Extra attacks in the acting character's turn for the price of action+bonus action+reaction+exertion cost, I'd say that it's not possible, simply out of balance issues.</p><p></p><p>The Haste spell (3rd level) allows to take one extra action but only to perform a single attack.</p><p>The balance issue shows immediately at level 5 (when both Extra Attack and Haste become available): one option would be both cheaper (2 exertion vs 1 level 3 spell slot) and more effective (2 additional attacks instead of only 1)</p><p>The cost of this maneuver can be brought down to 1 exertion via maneuver specialization (fighter) and eventually even to 0 (Master of combat). Albeit the latter only happens at level 20, the former would happen already at level 3.</p><p>So realistically, with 1 exertion and spending all action economy related resources, this fighter could do 4 attacks per round already at level 5, for only 1 exertion.</p><p></p><p>Also, there's no spell or feature of any level (that I know of) that allows this double extra attack to happen in A5E, and AFAIK Action Surge was removed exactly to avoid these kinds of shenaningans</p><p></p><p>So long story short, for me this is a clear no.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lichmaster, post: 9729212, member: 6683330"] Regarding the use of this maneuver to get 2x Extra attacks in the acting character's turn for the price of action+bonus action+reaction+exertion cost, I'd say that it's not possible, simply out of balance issues. The Haste spell (3rd level) allows to take one extra action but only to perform a single attack. The balance issue shows immediately at level 5 (when both Extra Attack and Haste become available): one option would be both cheaper (2 exertion vs 1 level 3 spell slot) and more effective (2 additional attacks instead of only 1) The cost of this maneuver can be brought down to 1 exertion via maneuver specialization (fighter) and eventually even to 0 (Master of combat). Albeit the latter only happens at level 20, the former would happen already at level 3. So realistically, with 1 exertion and spending all action economy related resources, this fighter could do 4 attacks per round already at level 5, for only 1 exertion. Also, there's no spell or feature of any level (that I know of) that allows this double extra attack to happen in A5E, and AFAIK Action Surge was removed exactly to avoid these kinds of shenaningans So long story short, for me this is a clear no. [/QUOTE]
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